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Cloudy With a Chance of Trust

50 episodes - English - Latest episode: 3 months ago - ★★★★★ - 7 ratings

A podcast for digital transformation leaders. Network security experts Pam Kubiatowski and Lisa Lorenzin discuss the latest cyber-attack issues, enterprise security strategies, and current security events so that you can successfully accelerate network and security transformation.

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Episodes

Lessons in servant leadership from Voya Financial CISO Stacy Hughes (part 2)

January 22, 2024 15:40 - 22 minutes - 8.75 MB

In her second sit-down with host Pamela Kubiatowski, Voya Financial CISO Stacy Hughes turns from the technical to the interpersonal. Hughes speaks as an industry advocate and mentor about the importance of going deeper than standard cyber awareness training, mentorship as "servant leadership," practical advice for dealing with the time constraints imposed on executives, and a few of the Atlanta-area organizations she supports.

Security leaders under the spotlight with Voya Financial CISO Stacy Hughes (part 1)

January 16, 2024 15:23 - 17 minutes - 23.5 MB

What are CISOs to make of recent rulings against their colleagues and increasing scrutiny from the SEC, whose new reporting rules are dnow in effect? Host Pam Kubiatowski sits down with renowned Voya Financial CISO and FinTech veteran Stacy Hughes to discuss how the new rules affect incident response, the importance of CEO support, and considerations unique to the financial industry.

‘Planned happenstance:’ Lessons from a life in tech with Zscaler CTO Syam Nair

October 09, 2023 14:32 - 28 minutes - 25.7 MB

From Microsoft to Salesforce, Syam Nair’s work has left an indelible mark on the intersection of technology and business productivity. He recently joined Zscaler as CTO and EVP of Research and Development. In this episode, he relates lessons from the first 100 days on the job, the personal philosophies that guide his professional life, and what excites him most about the future of Zscaler from a technology perspective. His ability to inspire, engage, and be wholly life-enhancing is ...

Illustrating the “art of the possible” with Brian Deitch

July 19, 2023 15:22 - 27 minutes - 51.6 MB

When a prospect has trouble grasping the architecture underpinning zero trust, Zscaler calls in Brian Deitch. The Chief Technology Evangelist is known for his colorful technical whiteboarding sessions and passion for infosec. He joined the show to discuss his career, early experiments with social engineering, and influences on his distinctive style.

How Andrew Baker, a CTO 'seduced by complexity,' came to embrace zero trust

June 08, 2023 14:12 - 33 minutes - 63.2 MB

He never planned to climb the ladder of corporate technology leadership. But an obsession with hard problems led him down the path to becoming the CTO for South Africa's Capitec Bank. In this episode, learn more about Andrew Baker's career arc, including going from "my very first project was to remove Zscaler because I didn't see the value in it," to leading three successful zero trust transformations and becoming a Zscaler advisor.

Product management on the main stage: Innovations to be unveiled at Zenith Live '23

May 31, 2023 20:15 - 19 minutes - 35.8 MB

Zscaler VP & GM of Product Management Dhawal Sharma joined the show to preview some of the innovations to be announced at Zenith Live '23 in Las Vegas and Berlin this June. But before he does, Dhawal provides a glimpse into the challenges and goals of product management teams, how they prioritize release roadmaps, and the importance of customer-centric innovation.

Coming to grips with an increasingly diverse, dynamic, and automated public cloud

March 27, 2023 14:56 - 30 minutes - 56 MB

The big three cloud service providers are in an arms race to release new functions and win market share, which is great for innovation. On the flip side, orgs contend with misconfigurations, excessive entitlements, sensitive data exposure, unpatched vulnerabilities, and bindpsots across their asset inventories. Learn how the combined power of CNAPP and DLP can help you get back in control from Zscaler SVP & GM, Posture Control Rich Campagna.

Blackouts, brownouts, and Black Swans: Maintaining uptime in spite of it all

March 06, 2023 15:27 - 24 minutes - 44.3 MB

Business continuity planning has become a board-level conversation. With so many resources now living in the cloud, outages threaten organizations' very survival. Host Pam Kubiatowski welcomes Harsha Nagaraju, Sr. director, product marketing to the show to discuss the features and capabilities Zscaler offers to enhance clients' resilience against minor and catastrophic failures of public cloud service providers.

Consolidation and consumers set tone for media and entertainment M&A

February 14, 2023 15:41 - 26 minutes - 49.7 MB

Mergers and acquisitions in media, entertainment, and gaming are unique because users are in the driver’s seat, and monetizing their engagement is the name of the game. Praveen Bhasin, managing partner at Tata Consulting Services rejoins Zscaler’s Sami Ramachandran and host Pam Kubiatowski to discuss transactions in this dynamic sector, including how consolidation and 5G can reface the market landscape in coming years.

Zero trust in Europe

January 19, 2023 02:59 - 22 minutes - 41.6 MB

There are 44 countries and over 200 languages spoken in Europe, making for a complex place for organizations doing trade, complying with data privacy laws, and architecting a zero trust models. In this episode, returning guest Martyn Ditchburn, director of transformation strategy at Zscaler, says thinking globally but implementing locally while solving for real business challenges is what matters to success regardless of the economic climate.

M&A in life sciences and healthcare

December 16, 2022 15:49 - 22 minutes - 42.2 MB

Praveen Bhasin (Tata Consulting Services) and Sami Ramachandran (Zscaler) return for the second part of their M&A series, focusing on the trends in the rapidly transforming healthcare industry. Learn about notable transactions in the space, how greater value is extracted from speeding up integrations, and the ingredients needed that make deals successful today.

Pulling the thread on zero trust with Ben Corll, CISO

December 02, 2022 17:53 - 34 minutes - 63.5 MB

If you've ever sat on a couch or put on a jacket, chances are you've experienced a product from Coats. Ben Corll, former VP of cybersecurity for the more than two-century-old industrial thread manufacturer joins the show to talk about leading the company's digital transformation. He discusses gradually adopting a zero trust mindset, why his biggest hurdle wasn’t a technical one, and how he ultimately ended up joining Zscaler.

How AI/ML assists in solving the unsolvable in cybersecurity

November 07, 2022 19:19 - 19 minutes - 36.9 MB

Scalability may just be cybersecurity’s saving grace, and AI can enable it. Howie Xu, Zscaler VP of machine learning and AI, explains how his team is going the distance to solve one of cybersecurity’s thorniest problems: augmenting human intelligence where it would otherwise be spread too thin. Tune in to learn how collaborating with domain experts allows algorithms to keep pushing the limits of threat discovery, intrusion detection, and policy configurations.

Talking mergers, acquisitions, and divestitures with TCS

October 25, 2022 14:44 - 24 minutes - 45.6 MB

Praveen Bhasin, Managing Partner at Tata Consulting Services (TCS), shares insights from his book of business and is bullish about life sciences, manufacturing, healthcare, and retail. In this episode, he joins Sami Ramachandran, Zscaler Managing Director, M&A, Divestiture, and Private Equity, and show host Pam Kubiatowski to discuss TCS’s role in M&A transactions and the underlying market conditions that drive them.

Key NIST cybersecurity publications and how to apply them

September 14, 2022 21:21 - 28 minutes - 53.1 MB

Pam and Brad dissect their recent discussion with NIST Fellow Ron Ross (episode 34) and provide advice for applying the guidance in the special publications he helped develop. Listen to this complimentary deep dive to learn how best to apply controls, properly differentiate and value your data assets, rank and classify your apps, and manage risk by using cybersecurity standards.

Talking standards with NIST Fellow Dr. Ron Ross

August 15, 2022 16:07 - 49 minutes - 91.3 MB

The cybersecurity world can be divided into two halves--one above the waterline and one below it, says NIST’s Ron Ross. Whereas certification & accreditations (C&As) and assessment & authorizations (A&As) have focused on the former, more needs to be done below the surface to better safeguard hardware, software, and firmware. In this special episode, Ross explains the role of security systems engineering in that effort while taking host Pam Kubiatowski and CISO - Americas Brad Moldenh...

So long, not goodbye

July 30, 2022 00:29 - 28 minutes - 52.3 MB

In this episode, co-host Lisa Lorenzin reveals she is embarking on the next step of her own transformation journey. She looks back on a nearly 30-year career in IT, from the help desk to Field CTO. Lorenzin covers milestones and learnings she picked up along the way, including her zero trust "aha moment" and the changing role of women in IT.

How to talk tech, featuring Bill Lapp

July 18, 2022 14:05 - 26 minutes - 48.8 MB

The man without a title joins hosts Lisa Lorenzin and Pam Kubiatowski to discuss the art of talking about technical topics with non-specialists. The master communicator says he stays focused on the “why” when trying to explain complex technologies – and discusses how virtual whiteboarding can be more effective at making a case for an IT purchase than doing it in person.

To go far, go together: The value of collaboration in transformation

July 06, 2022 19:31 - 14 minutes - 26.8 MB

In this episode, Lisa Lorenzin hands the microphone to co-host and fellow Field CTO Pam Kubiatowski. They explore Pam's experience on topics spanning the "great resignation," soaring SaaS adoption, the importance of user experience, technical debt, and the ever-present pressure to cut costs. For those who've already begun their transformation, technology exists to address these issues. But too many organizations are still waffling on taking the first steps. Just joining the conversa...

RSAC 2022: An attendee's perspective on hot topics and the elephant in the room

June 21, 2022 20:15 - 16 minutes - 30.3 MB

Zscaler CISO - AMS Bryan Green braved crowds and his own reservations to be on the scene at RSAC this year. Afterward, he joined Pam & Lisa to discuss popular topics – including identity and access management, securing cloud workloads, and managing third-party risk – and draw parallels between COVID-prevention best practices and zero trust strategies. Listen now.

Anatomy of a threat with Zscaler CISO and ThreatLabz chief Deepen Desai

June 01, 2022 19:26 - 20 minutes - 39 MB

Zscaler CISO and VP of Security Research and Operations Deepen Desai has a big job. He's not only responsible keeping Zscaler secure, he's also tracking the pulse on the global threat landscape and ensuring customers around the world are protected. Desai joins hosts Lisa Lorenzin and Pam Kubiatowski to explain the objectives of ThreatLabz including performing cybersecurity analyses, issuing special reports on pressing topics like phishing and ransomware, and sparking conversations on...

Firewalls: the good, the bad, and the ugly

May 17, 2022 17:26 - 20 minutes - 37.4 MB

When it comes to firewalls, things are...complicated. In this episode, Pam interviews Lisa to get at the heart of the dangers and drawbacks of using these legacy network protection tools. Traditional firewalls can't do zero trust, but they can coexist with your modernized infrastructure as you begin your journey. Listen now to learn more.

Zscaler Private Access innovations with Tony Paterra, SVP Emerging Products

April 28, 2022 15:36 - 22 minutes - 41.6 MB

Did you know having a VPN is like getting bombarded with robocalls because you decided to have your phone number listed in a telephone directory? According to Tony Paterra, SVP Emerging Products at Zscaler, with VPN you’re choosing to be a beacon for threats. In the latest episode, he joins Lisa and Pam to get to the essence of doing zero trust the right way, including the role of inline inspection of web applications, cloud and ML-powered intelligent policy, and active defense. Lis...

Outrunning the bear

April 13, 2022 22:10 - 17 minutes - 32 MB

Nobody can outrun a bear. We're advised to stand tall, wave our arms, and talk loudly, yet calmly - but it might be easier to distract the bear, or to just not let him see you in the first place!  In cybersecurity, attackers and threats are hard to outrun using traditional network protections. In this episode, Pam and Lisa explore new approaches that make it unnecessary to run and instead confidentially secure your modern, cloud-enabled, perimeter-less environment - so it's out of s...

Navigating the Wild West of cloud workflows

March 25, 2022 20:52 - 24 minutes - 33 MB

The "Wild West" is a term organizations sometimes use to describe the unregulated cloud environments they encounter along their transformation journeys. Compared to established public clouds with well-defined security guardrails, these lawless environments are often built by unknown dev teams and operate like black boxes for users. Even among the "big three" cloud service providers, there are hundreds of services on offer that complicate the task of securing them.

Misha Kuperman: Scaling a cloud for uncharted territory

March 10, 2022 15:42 - 18 minutes - 34.7 MB

On this episode, our guest Misha Kuperman, Zscaler SVP cloud operations and ecosystem, returns for an update on the Zscaler cloud. He shares a platform review, thoughts on top issues like supply chain threats and geopolitical risks, and the implications of the Cold War between the West and China - exacerbated by the FCC's decision to revoke Chinese telecoms' authorization to operate in the US, citing national security.

Trusting your cloud apps: from conceptual breakthrough to realization

February 25, 2022 14:47 - 20 minutes - 37.2 MB

Cybersecurity is often cited as a key obstacle for expanded cloud and multi-cloud migration, but what if the opposite is true? What if security delivered via the cloud can harden your entire enterprise information technology architecture? In this episode, Pam and Lisa confess their hesitations about moving to the cloud early in their careers, given the complexity, and walk us through how that changed. They detail how you can use the cloud to accelerate your application transformatio...

Confidence and permission: the secrets to successful zero trust

February 09, 2022 20:56 - 18 minutes - 33.8 MB

Guest Martyn Ditchburn, director, transformation strategy at Zscaler, joins Pam and Lisa to recount his zero trust journey across the merger of companies, on- and off-network protection, and the COVID-19 transition. Using a modern approach to connect and secure users and apps in the cloud can radically speed up time to value for M&A, streamline the admin overhead, and simplify the user experience.

IT, IoT, IIoT, OT: zero trust for every...thing

January 27, 2022 15:53 - 23 minutes - 43.1 MB

Operational technology leaders are at crossroads as the digitization of the industrial world accelerates. In one direction is the legacy "IT-centric" approach to data security that is ill-suited for OT and IoT systems. The other is extending the zero trust model to devices, effectively hiding hard-to-access and hard-to-patch, agentless IP-enabled sensors and data-generating assets from the Internet and shielding them from your attack surface. In this episode, Pam, Lisa, and guest De...

Maturing zero trust via an operational mindset

January 12, 2022 15:56 - 17 minutes - 32.5 MB

With 19 episodes in the rearview mirror, Lisa and Pam consider zero trust from a wider perspective, reflecting changes in hybrid work and solution maturity. Inspired by recent customer discussions in the field, they discuss how organizations are applying zero trust protection on-prem through tools such as Zscaler Private Access (ZPA), and how related advancements - such as automated granular policy and access controls, and visibility into user experience - are pointing to a future o...

Engaging the adversary with cloud-enabled active defense

December 21, 2021 15:04 - 18 minutes - 35 MB

If your malware problem is eclipsed by your adversary problem it’s time for active defense. In this episode, guest Sahir Hidayatullah, VP, Active Defense at Zscaler, covers the latest strategies for marrying zero trust with active defense and how the Zscaler Zero Trust Exchange helps make it seamless. Listeners get a brief history of the origins of honeypots and intrusion deception, and a compelling case for baking fake attack surfaces into the architecture of zero trust to help supe...

Stronger together: the role of coaching and mentoring in leadership transitions

December 10, 2021 02:28 - 25 minutes - 47.1 MB

Lisa and Pam shift gears to walk through their career milestones through the lens of coaching and mentoring and the influence of key individuals in both their professional and personal lives. Heartfelt and candid, they open up to share valuable stories about continuous improvement, career development, and empathetic leadership.

Bridging the zero trust gap between public and private sectors

December 01, 2021 06:35 - 15 minutes - 27.8 MB

How different is zero trust for federal agencies as compared to the private sector? To find out, Lisa and Pam invite guest Zscaler Federal CISO, Danny Connelly, who has been on both sides of the fence. The three experts share advice on separating hype from reality when evaluating approaches to IT modernization, and why square one of your foundational zero trust knowledge should start with NIST and CISA.

Zero trust and private app visibility: a new ray of light for digital experience

November 09, 2021 15:14 - 20 minutes - 37.7 MB

You can never know enough about the performance of your SaaS and critical applications and the best source for insights is from the end-user perspective. Modern toolsets use this approach to help teams diagnose issues and enhance the experience in ways legacy troubleshooting technologies can't. In this episode, Lisa and Pam welcome guest Sanjit Ganguli, VP, Transformation Strategy at Zscaler and one of the industry's top experts in digital experience monitoring to explain the latest ...

The Great Firewall of China

October 26, 2021 16:38 - 20 minutes - 38.7 MB

Internet connectivity with mainland China is strictly regulated by the government, with sweeping laws banning many types of content and sites, and ongoing traffic inspection. The patchwork of technical and regulatory requirements results in “choke points” for content providers and their customers, who grapple with application availability and performance issues. To help make sense of it all, Zscaler SVP of Cloud Operations & Ecosystems Misha Kuperman speaks with Lisa and Pam, explai...

Enabling the modern workplace no matter how you slice it

September 21, 2021 18:22 - 12 minutes - 16.6 MB

The modern workplace is now up to every organization to define. Enabling it, however, means the same thing: secure user access to apps and data with full visibility and granular control without compromising a seamless experience wherever that experience takes place. In this episode, Lisa and Pam offer advice on how to deliver remote access in a hybrid environment, pull back on the risks tolerated over the last 18 months, and how legacy technologies, such as VPN and VDI can hurt more...

Sizing up the transformative opportunity of 5G

September 01, 2021 17:44 - 20 minutes - 38.8 MB

5G means a lot of different things to different people and there’s a world of difference between it and previous wireless generations. In this episode, Pam and Lisa interview Nathan Howe, VP of Emerging Technology at Zscaler, who covers the specific points of differentiation that every enterprise technology leader should know about as they plan for the future.   

New & Notable from Zenith Live 2021

August 19, 2021 18:55 - 18 minutes - 33.7 MB

Lisa and Pam discuss the most interesting things they heard at Zenith Live 2021 this summer - innovations, customer insights, and more - plus how to access the conference presentations on-demand.

Breaking down segmentation: From networks to workloads

June 22, 2021 23:28 - 17 minutes - 32.4 MB

Lisa and Pam discuss what segmentation means, why it’s important, why it’s difficult, and how approaches to segmentation have evolved as cloud and mobility have driven new workflows.

Zenith Live Is Around the Corner!

June 02, 2021 20:47 - 11 minutes - 21.1 MB

Don’t forget to register for Zenith Live at www.zenithlive.com

Biden’s Executive Order on Cybersecurity

May 17, 2021 21:19 - 14 minutes - 26.3 MB

Lisa and Pam talk about the Executive Order that President Biden recently signed to improve the nation’s cybersecurity and protect federal government networks. This will help the federal government avoid and respond to malicious events like the one a week ago for the East Coasts pipeline.  What does this Executive Order do, and why is everyone so excited about it?

Let’s get SASE

May 14, 2021 17:28 - 17 minutes - 33.3 MB

Topics Covered: How does transitioning to SASE change a typical organization structure Why are people transitioning to SASE? People and apps are anywhere now… Need to be agile, and enable the business  What are some of the things to think about prior to starting the journey Focus on your technical staff not only the skills but their mindset...are they open to change and what that means The relationships and dependencies between various groups such as Cyber and Network What a...

Seize the Zero Trust Moment

May 14, 2021 17:17 - 14 minutes - 26.9 MB

We recap our digital event on April 20th - Seize the Zero Trust Moment Jay - overview / market / move to Zero Trust Zero Trust Exchange - modern architecture Part of your zero trust ecosystem - API integrations Problems we solve Modern workplace enablement: work from anywhere, great user experience Security transformation: cyber threat protection, data loss prevention Network transformation: transform hub & spoke, take zero trust to the world of the cloud Amit - platform / innovatio...

The Long Short History of Zero Trust

April 26, 2021 23:51 - 17 minutes - 33.4 MB

How Zero Trust has evolved over the past decade - Pam interviews Lisa on: Where does the term Zero Trust come from? Gartner talks a lot about ZTNA and SASE - is it the same thing?  Why didn’t it take off when it was first introduced? What does it mean today? And is it the same for all? Where do you see companies struggle with moving to a Zero Trust architecture?

The Short Long History of Zero Trust

April 26, 2021 23:51 - 17 minutes - 33.4 MB

Lisa and Pam discuss Zero Trust as an architecture and security strategy.

Zero Trust and M&A, Part 2

April 22, 2021 23:12 - 14 minutes - 26.8 MB

Second part of Lisa and Pam’s discussion on M&A: The last episode covered how ZPA helped. How did ZIA enter the picture?  Addressed in phases? ZPA w/ Client Connector > ZIA Tying in ZIA after the ZPA solution for enterprise SaaS apps What concrete suggestions do CISOs need What was left to accomplish Gaps in coverage Secure workloads What about divestitures?

Zero Trust and M&A, Part 1

April 15, 2021 02:57 - 13 minutes - 18 MB

ZIA + ZPA: better together for M&A! Lisa interviews Pam on: Business journey Pam’s background at  The challenges she faced The decision to use Zscaler  Using business as a decider Identifying concerns and priorities Lessons learned

What’s Ahead on the Zero Trust Exchange Horizon

April 15, 2021 02:11 - 12 minutes - 23.8 MB

We recently went through Halftime at Zscaler -- our mid-year review of Zscaler solutions, development, plans, and direction. We learned a lot, and we share it here. We’re excited about Zscaler today, and what the future will bring!

Solarwinds and Supply Chain Attacks

April 13, 2021 15:58 - 13 minutes - 18.8 MB

A discussion on how the Solarwinds breach affects enterprises:  What it implies How customers responded How Zscaler can help