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Highlights of the Carolina Outdoors

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Roam Free (Mountain Khakis new release with Unknown Brewery)

April 09, 2021 18:36 - 8 minutes - 11 MB

From the April 3rd Program, Carolina Outdoors, Segment 1): The Outpost with Mountain Khakis at Jesse Brown's has the first event in over a year.  It is a union of several Charlotte-based brands:  Mountain Khakis, The Unknown Brewery, Jesse Brown's & Spiider Griip will all be on hand along with Live Music from Stefan Kallendar.  So what's the reason? Roam Free Beer comes out just as people are beginning to roam free again. There is no dress code for this event but we encourage you to check o...

Fishing Wilmington with Capt. Seth Vernon

April 09, 2021 17:28 - 15 minutes - 20.9 MB

From the April 7th, 2021 Program, Segment 3: The Carolina's offer year-round pursuits for the outdoors.  Coastal fishing is just one of those pursuits & fly and light tackle fishing in the Wilmington area.  We head towards Oak Island, Topsail & Wrightsville Beach & more with Capt. Seth Vernon of Double Haul Guide Service.  Spring fills the shad in rivers & redfish & speckled trout inshore.  Gear like fly rods in 7 to 9 weights are perfect for catching big fish with Capt. Seth Vernon. Vernon...

A New World Record set in Charlotte?

April 09, 2021 15:32 - 6 minutes - 9.53 MB

From the April 7th, 2021 Program, Segment 4: Third Winter & into the Pollening Season of the Carolina's weather:  Wes Lawson & Bill Bartee, the Outdoor Guys from Jesse Brown's, chat about Turkey Season & the youth season that has been developed to help promote young people get out hunting.  South Carolina is requiring Turkey Tags to be in possession for all participants that are "on the hunt." Also, a new world record brown trout set on April 1st, 2021, from Sugar Creek, by our own, Bill Ba...

History of Jesse Brown’s

March 27, 2021 19:47 - 16 minutes - 22.3 MB

(From March 27, 2021 Carolina Outdoor Program, Segment 2) Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson talk often times about their place of work, Jesse Brown's Outdoors.  No seat belts, smoking cigarettes & high calorie beer were around when Jesse Brown began his store.  But where was he inspired?  How did he start?  What was the lay of the outfitting land in 1970, when Jesse started his store, Jesse Brown's.  Listen in and learn about the start of Charlotte's iconic outfitter store, Jesse Brown's.

Top Adventure College-Sweet 16

March 27, 2021 19:35 - 16 minutes - 23 MB

(Segment 3, From the March 27, 2021 Program) Listen to the Outdoor Guys from Jesse Brown's on the Carolina Outdoors help breakdown the contest that Blue Ridge Outdoors Magazine is putting on with choosing the Top Adventure College in the Southeast and Mid-Atlantic.  No matter your education or outdoor love, it's fun to hear college names that you know & some that maybe you don't know.

Fly Fishing, Footwear & Friendly Advice

March 27, 2021 19:17 - 6 minutes - 8.61 MB

(From Carolina Outdoors Program, Segment 4, March 27, 2021) Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson talk about things happening at Jesse Brown's & what late March 2021 means in regards to the Carolina Outdoors.  Whether you are getting out close to home or heading out on a big trip, Jesse Brown's is a registered member of the U.S. State Departments Travel Advisory Board.

PreGame for Turkey Season w/ James Buice

March 23, 2021 01:19 - 18 minutes - 25.9 MB

(From March 20, 2021 Program, Segment 2) Is Scouting important for preparing for Turkey Season?  Both Carolinas are getting ready for the upcoming Turkey Season. SC starts on April 1st and NC starts on April 11th so now is the time to get ready.  James Buice from Buice & Associates has travelled the world hunting and fishing.  On this segment he give the Outdoor Guys some wisdom on scouting before hunting.  This is most important if you're hunting a place that you haven't hunted before. Chec...

Spring Produce with Bush N Vine Farms

March 23, 2021 01:04 - 19 minutes - 26.6 MB

(From the March 20, 2021 Program, Segment 3) Spring brings warmer weather, longer days & fresh produce to the Carolinas.  Sam Hall from BushNVineFarms in Filbert, SC, joins the Outdoor Guys to talk about what spring has in store for us eating healthy. Tune in and learn how strawberries and brussel sprouts turn into the summer fruits & vegetables like peaches and corn.  Plus, learn how okra can look purple. Jesse Brown's is a pick up location for the farm (Wed) along with places in Rock Hill,...

Wrap Up! Hanging Our Hats at Jesse Brown’s

March 23, 2021 00:51 - 5 minutes - 7.75 MB

(from the Carolina Outdoor program, segment 4, March 20, 2021) Listen to the Outdoor Guys from Jesse Brown's wrap up the program.  New arrivals of Sandals & Fly Fishing Waders have landed at Jesse Brown's. Special nod to Women's Fly Fishing Waders ,  New Hiking Boots & Spring Ski Pants.  Stop by & check it out at Jesse Brown's in Charlotte, NC.

Spring in the Carolinas

March 22, 2021 00:56 - 7 minutes - 9.81 MB

(From the March 13 Program--Opening Segment) Listen into the Outdoor Guys from Jesse Brown's as they discuss the sports of spring in the outdoors: fishing, hiking, turkeys & more as Bill and Wes introduce this mid-March program.

F3T Celebrates 15-years

March 22, 2021 00:49 - 15 minutes - 20.9 MB

(From the March 13, 2021 Program, Segment 2): The Fly Fishing Film Tour is on from now until April 4th, 2021.  They are travelling the globe celebrating independent film, travel & of course, fly fishing. Guyana's Arapaima is a river monster that's is featured in this year's F3T.  Listen to what an "air breather" is in the fish world. Taiman fish in Mongolia, trout in the Green River flowing through the Flaming Gorge & more are discussed during this segment.  However, some of it is buddy trips...

Fly Fishing Season is Now

March 22, 2021 00:33 - 16 minutes - 22.8 MB

(From the March 13, 2021 Program, Third Segment) Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson talk fly fishing on this segment of the Carolina Outdoors. Dave Bergman, head guide from the fly fishing guide service at Jesse Brown's.  He comes onto the program to explain how the fish habits begin changing with the warming of air (& water temperatures). Brown, Rainbow & Brook Trout are getting into their feeding patterns & everything is pointing towards a continuing excellent 2021 of fishing.  Check out some of the ...

Four Letter Word? Travel

March 22, 2021 00:17 - 6 minutes - 8.39 MB

(From the March 13, 2021 Program) Jesse Brown's has been outfitting all through the Pandemic.  However, international travel definitely has been quiet.  Wes Lawson gives a breakdown on some places that are opening up.  Belize, The Seychelles & Mongolia are opening up.  Jesse Brown's State Department affiliation helps give perspective plus learn about Mongolia's spirit animal.  If you're thinking about fly fishing somewhere in this world, contact the Jesse Brown's crew.

Barrier Island Eco Tours with Captain Shane Ziegler

March 05, 2021 23:14 - 19 minutes - 27.3 MB

(from 03.06.21 Program, Segment 2) Almost thirty years ago Captain Shane Ziegler began Barrier Island Eco Tours just outside Charleston, SC.  His boats depart from the Isle of Palm Marina taking single clients on fishing trips to dozens on nature tours of the barrier islands of SC.  He joins the Outdoor Guys from Jesse Brown's to explain the complex ecosystem of creeks, marshes, oyster beds, wildlife that make up this special part of the Carolinas.

Yellowstone National Park

March 05, 2021 22:38 - 20 minutes - 28 MB

(from the 03.06.2021 program, Segment 3) Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson take us on a trip to 1872 & the start of Yellowstone National Park.  The Park is looked at as the first in the country (& possibly the first in the world) & is home to one of the world's largest volcanic caulderas. For adventure lovers in the Charlotte-area, it is a place to escape for hikes, climbs, fly fishing & wildlife touring. Jesse Brown's has been outfitting Carolinians for adventurers around the world but domestic adve...

Hardly Easy – Chat with Kimberly Jochl

March 01, 2021 01:31 - 20 minutes - 28 MB

(from 02.27.2021 program -  3rd segment): If there is a woman that is considered a "Renaissance Women" it is Kimberly Jochl.  She grew up in Massachusetts with her twin sister, became a pilot, was on the U.S. Ski Team & helps manage North Carolina's largest ski resort, Sugar Mountain. She's also a Storyteller Night alumnus from Jesse Brown's. Wes Lawson & Bill Bartee speak to her on the Carolina Outdoors because 2021 brings us her third published book, Hardly Easy.  This fictional account of ...

Taking Care of that Gear

February 28, 2021 23:55 - 4 minutes - 5.67 MB

(from the 02.28.2021 Program, Wrap Up): Wes Lawson & Bill Bartee from Jesse Brown's talk about the upcoming spring agenda:  turkey season, striper run, hiking trip & spring cleaning. Make your outdoor gear last longer by preparing for spring with washing, repairing, cleaning & getting your equipment ready for the next adventure.

Mountain Khakis Creative Director–Adam Webb

February 20, 2021 15:44 - 21 minutes - 29.7 MB

(From the Air Date, 2/20/2021): Adam Webb the Creative Director of Mountain Khakis joins Bill Bartee of the Carolina Outdoors to share this prominent brand's story.  Born on the rugged frontier of Jackson Hole, Wyoming & groomed on southern charm, the brand hasgrown into a full collection from its first presentation in 2003 in Jesse Brown's & the outdoor world. Brand personality grows and morphs by the people attracted to it. Now that personality is on-hand in #TheOutpost by Mountain Khakis a...

Skiing & Carolina Weather

February 20, 2021 15:34 - 5 minutes - 6.98 MB

(From the Air Date 2.20.2021): Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson discuss the recent Carolina weather & local skiing this time of year on the Carolina Outdoors. Clue:  It's fantastic.

Lisa Reinhart-Director of Design at MK

February 13, 2021 17:20 - 18 minutes - 24.8 MB

(Air Date, February 13, 2021) Mountain Khakis took the outdoor apparel world by storm in 2003.  Here our host, Bill Bartee, helps us learn how the Charlotte-based brand started & then delve into 2021 and the future with Mountain Khakis, Director of Merchandising, Design & Development, Lisa Reinhart. First off!  What does that job mean & how Lisa was introduced to textile apparel, the business & what's a Mountain Momma? Sourcing, shipping, price & quality all start in the details of design. No...

Mountain Khakis-Not Just Pants, Not Just Men’s

February 13, 2021 16:47 - 16 minutes - 22.3 MB

(Air Date--February 13, 2021) The conversation continues beyond the beginning of  a pant company with Lisa Reinhart, Director of Merchandising, Design & Development, at Mountain Khakis.  During this segment she shares the expansion of the complete company collection.  Shirts, Outerwear & Underwear are all important parts of Mountain Khakis that are soft, comfortable & long lasting.Shirt Jacks are shirts-worn as jackets-& they are more popular than ever due to people not dressing up. Plus, Wo...

Cancellation of SEWE-2021

February 13, 2021 15:59 - 6 minutes - 8.77 MB

(Air Date--February 13, 2021) The Outdoor Guys, Wes Lawson & Bill Bartee, mention Valentine's Day upcoming & complementary gift wrapping at Jesse Brown's.  Even make your visit to Jesse Brown's an adventure as you seek out Flies for fishing, new Winston Pure Rods have arrived & Sunglasses. Bad news!  The Southeastern Wildlife Exposition in Charleston, SC, has been cancelled.  This annual February event is not going to happen in 2021 due to the Covid-19 Pandemic. Thanks to our guest, Lisa Re...

Kick Off February’s Carolina Outdoors

February 09, 2021 00:00 - 10 minutes - 13.7 MB

(From the February 6th, 2021 Air Date) Yippy-Ki-Yay!! The Carolina Outdoor Guys chat about the topics for this week's program. Listen up about the Appalachian Trail and Custom Knifemaking but first what's happening around the shop.  Two Charlotte-based businesses join forces at The Outpost.  Mountain Khakis and Jesse Brown's

Appalachian Trail Conservancy Says NO to Recognizing Thru-Hikers

February 08, 2021 23:47 - 15 minutes - 22 MB

(From the Air Date, February 6th, 2021) The Appalachian Trail is a 2180+ mile long public footpath that travels the scenic, wooded, pastoral Appalachian mountains over the course of 14 states.  It is maintained by the National Park Service, the US Forest Service, the Appalachian Trail Conservancy & a ton of volunteers. A recent announcement by the Appalachian Trail Conservancy (ATC) states that thru-hikers (people that attempt to hike the entire trail at once) will not be recognized for 2021....

Custom Knife Making by J. Michael McRae

February 08, 2021 23:34 - 18 minutes - 26 MB

(From the Air Date, February 6th, 2021) A local craftsman making tools like knives, broadswords, dirks & Sgian Dubh (skeen doos) that are handmade & historically accurate from 17th Century Scotland joins the program.  J. Michael McRae from Scotia Metal Works shares his passion for making these items. McRae shares which blade is "the American Express card of the Highlands" because you never left home without it.  He also gives a view of the physical change in metal due to heat, pressure & con...

Wrapping Up! Early February Show

February 08, 2021 23:08 - 5 minutes - 7.09 MB

(From the airdate of February 6th): The Wrap Up for this week features a look into the world of the Appalachian Trail Thru-Hiker during the Pandemic, plus Women's products are featured in The Outpost with Mountain Khakis at Jesse Brown's.  Oh yes, special thanks to the man responsible for the sharp knives from the famed-maker at Scotia Metal Works, J. Michael McRae.

Gear Aid & Prolonging the Life of Equipment

January 30, 2021 17:18 - 19 minutes - 27.2 MB

(From the 1/30/21 Air Date):  Beaty Jackson has worked in the outdoor business for over 40-years.  He knew that was what he wanted to do after an extended hike on the Appalachian Trail.  Since then he has worked within manufacturing, outfitting & sales & has learned that the gear and equipment involved are more than just items:  they represent memories and experiences. Gear Aid is a company he represents that helps prolong the life of equipment.  Tent & Boot repairs, reviving outerwear's wate...

Damascus, VA, Newest Town Council Member

January 30, 2021 17:02 - 19 minutes - 26.4 MB

(From 1/30/21 Air Date - Segment 3)  Our guest, Beaty Jackson, resides in Damascus, VA, which is aptly nicknamed Trail Town, USA.  This town of less than 1,000 people in southwest Virginia is home to several hikes, rivers & two internationally famous paths.  The Appalachian Trail and the Virginia Creeper Trail both overlap in downtown Damascus.  Jackson gives us insight into how visitors enjoy the outdoors while still remaining safe.  He also says flip a coin on the annual May celebration, Tr...

Wrap Up! End of January 2021

January 30, 2021 16:28 - 3 minutes - 4.13 MB

(Segment 4, from 1/30/21 Air Date )Bill Bartee wraps up this edition of the program with thanks to this week's guest, Beaty Jackson, from the Taku Agency, & Town Council Member from Damascus, VA, for joining the program.  Plus, TJ "the DJ" Boggs making us look good and sound good each week on the Carolina Outdoors.

Geocaching

January 23, 2021 21:05 - 19 minutes - 26.4 MB

From the 1/23/21 Air Date: Christopher Lawing joins the program to discuss GEOCACHING.  It’s a little known fact that Jesse Brown’s location at Sharon Corners (in the heart of South Park’s shopping district) has a CACHE.   What is it?  Essentially it’s a Smartphone Treasure Hunt  What do you need?  Nothing but your phone and transportation (including your legs, a bike, bus or car).  The Outdoor Guys discuss using the clues that lead to new CACHEs.  Plus, Lawing gives a quick lesson in Oriente...

Fishing Private Waters in the Winter

January 23, 2021 20:56 - 22 minutes - 31.3 MB

From the 1/23/21 Air Date: Wes Lawson joins in the discussion of Bartee’s recent trip to “Private Water Trout Stream” in NC during the Carolina Winter.  How do the fish act in the cold?  What did they eat & How do you stay warm?  All of that & more during this segment of the show.

Wrap Up! Last Segment of the Week!

January 23, 2021 20:51 - 53 seconds - 1.21 MB

Wrap up!  Bill Bartee thanks the gang for joining in!  For Christopher Lawing, Wes Lawson & TJ the DJ Boggs—Remember to get out & always pick up your trash & visit us at Jesse Brown's.

Shop Update! Mid-January Report

January 16, 2021 17:57 - 6 minutes - 9.18 MB

From January 16th Program--A long weekend for many because of the MLK holiday has many people heading outdoors for an extended time.  Skiing, winter fishing & nature hikes have people heading to Jesse Brown's for outfitting & the Carolina Outdoors extends the experiences & knowledge of many into this week's post.  Plus, seasonal markdowns of Barbour & price reductions on Benchmade knives make for some successful savings at Jesse Brown's Outdooors.

Ski Sugar Mountain

January 16, 2021 17:56 - 14 minutes - 20.4 MB

From January 16th Program:  North Carolina's largest ski resort is working at handling the crowds that want to escape to the High Country to enjoy the many winter sports offered.  Kim Jochl of Sugar Mountain joins the program to share their spacing, mask requirements & first come/first serve policy during the Pandemic.  Listen in & learn that sometimes the secret to a ski escape is weekday & night skiing along with tubing & skating.

Bonefishing – Sport fish with Speed

January 16, 2021 17:47 - 18 minutes - 25.8 MB

From January 16th:  It's cold outside which makes it more fun to talk about warmer fishing places.  James Buice of Buice & Associates, rep for Solitude Flies, Nautilus Reels & Scott Rods joins Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson to talk about the bonefish.  Florida, The Bahamas, Mexico & more are fantastic destinations for this speedy shallow water resident of salt water that has a lot of speed.  Preparation, gear & expectations make this fish different than that of any other.

Wrap Up! Mid-January ’21-Segment 4

January 16, 2021 17:31 - 3 minutes - 4.92 MB

From January 16 Program:  A long weekend for many means more people getting outdoors.  Special thanks to our guests: Kim Jochl from Sugar Mountain talked about spreading out, first come-first serve & skiing weekdays to escape the crowds & James Buice educated us on fishing for the famed sportfish, The Bonefish.  Remember to get outdoors and pick up your trash.  

Report From The Shop

January 09, 2021 22:33 - 7 minutes - 10.6 MB

(From the 01/09/2021) Report from Jesse Brown’s.  Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson give a breakdown from their home shop:  Jesse Brown’s Outdoors MLK Day is upcoming which gets people out for a long weekend of recreation: Skiing, hiking, fishing & more have made Jesse Brown’s a Busy Place Price Reductions from Barbour & Benchmade have made shopping for those brands at Jesse Brown’s a price saving situation Layers! People learning to get ready for the cold by layering. Associates are trained ...

Morrow Mountain State Park

January 09, 2021 22:28 - 14 minutes - 19.5 MB

(From the 01/09/2021) Morrow Mountain State Park is the place that we’re going hiking on the Carolina Outdoors. It’s less than one hour away from Charlotte but covers almost 6,000 acres.  Stanley County is the home of this state park within the ancient Uwharrie Mountains & the prior home of native Americans.  It now features Kerr & Jordan Lake & tons of hikes.  Also, available are tons of special rocks created from volcanic activity.  Hikes feature views of the lakes & diversity from short/ea...

The Hat! Trend vs Practicality

January 09, 2021 22:26 - 14 minutes - 20.2 MB

(From The 1/09/2021 Program) The Man that Killed the Hat was an article written by Megan Mclachlan. The Man?  John F. Kennedy. The Time? The presidential inauguration in 1960.  However the real reasons are arguably that: 1. Returning veterans from war were sick of wearing hats 2. Just normal decline in trend 3. Streamlining and better enclosure of autos after the 1940s made wearing a hat less of a necessity 4. The youth movement of the 1960s make rebelling against the styles of their parents...

Wrap Up! Early January 2021

January 09, 2021 22:21 - 7 minutes - 10.7 MB

(From The 1/09/2021 Program) Wrap up! Wes and Bill cover the topics this week & add a little bit more in this week’s closing segment of the program. Program is available early on Saturday mornings via the airwaves of WBT Radio, at Jesse Brown's  & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Just type in Carolina Outdoors Remember to get outside & pick up your trash

Introducing Our First Segment 2021

January 02, 2021 20:12 - 6 minutes - 12.4 MB

(From The 01/02/2021 Program) Resolutions for a New Year are made up of a lot of recognizable goals.  We'll talk about looking for adventure, losing weight, learning a new skill or hobby & more

New Year’s Resolutions & How to Keep them Outside

January 02, 2021 19:45 - 15 minutes - 29.2 MB

(From The 01/02/2021 Program) How to successfully take on your outdoor/adventure resolutions?  Exercise, lose weight, get organized are some but how to do them with success.  Remember to do goals that Motivate YOU (not someone else), do obtainable goals & don't be hard on yourself if you have a set-back.

Growing Generations in the Outdoor Business

January 02, 2021 19:32 - 20 minutes - 37 MB

(From The 01/02/2021 Program) Bill Bartee & Wes Lawson talk about the changing make-up and buying power of groups of people.  The youngest Millennials are now adults with buying power & they're looking for experiences.  The outdoors is a great place for that.  The Boomers are focused on Health & have travel/adventure on their mind.  The RV rentals and purchases are being pushed immensely with this group.

Wrap Up! Starting a New Year Show

January 01, 2021 22:58 - 3.78 MB

(From The 01/02/2021 Program) Wrap up!  Bill and Wes wrap up the topics and thank T.J. "the D.J." Boggs for making us look good and sound good.  Remember to Pick Up Your Trash whenever you leave the outdoors.

The Foothills Trail

December 23, 2020 23:08 - 20 minutes - 23.8 MB

(From The 12/19/2020 Program) Meandering along the North and South Carolina borders is a national recreational foot path.  It first began in the 1960's by enthusiasts and his now become a beauty of the country.  The Foothill Trail is a 77- mile gem that connects state parks, waterfalls & a beautiful lake together.  The advocacy group, the Foothills Trail Conservancy & its director, Heyward Douglass, join the Carolina Outdoor program to talk hiking & the reason this place is special.

Road Names Change in Charlotte

December 23, 2020 22:51 - 20 minutes - 23.8 MB

(From The 12/19/2020 Program) Historic names have been celebrated on road signs for centuries.  However, the city of Charlotte is reviewing some roads for name change due to historic and social sensitivities.  We're going to find out about four of the roads and their current namesakes with the Charlotte Signs Project director, Christopher Lawing.  Lawing is our sign expert and his insight helps us learn the reasons for the proposed changes.

Fishing During The Carolina Cold Months

December 16, 2020 16:39 - 21 minutes - 29.1 MB

(From The 12/12/2020 Show) No one has quite the fishing resume as Chris Hart.  Growing up in Cape Cod & the Great Smoky Mountains, mixed with North Dakota & Montana, gives him an eye on the sport and the species like no other.  His step into the competitive B.A.S.S. Masters & F.L.W. world gave him perspective and pressure in catching fish for a living.  Now he travels the southeast showing people great fishing gear from Simms Fishing Products.  On this segment of the program he’ll provide tip...

How Did McAdenville Become Christmas Town, USA?

December 12, 2020 21:15 - 20 minutes - 28.1 MB

(From The 12/12/20 Show)  In 1954 Marilyn Monroe married Joe DiMaggio in New York City; Elvis Presley recorded his first single with Sun Records, "It's All Right", in Memphis, TN; and Dick Roberts, along with three other Pharr Yarn employees decided to "spruce up their town" for Christmas. Sixty-six years later, that "town" is known as "ChristmasTown, USA" & hundreds of thousands of people and cars travel through McAdenville to view the legacy of the special players that made it possible. Rob...

How McAdenville became ChristmasTown, USA?

December 12, 2020 21:15 - 20 minutes - 28.1 MB

  (From the 12/12/20 Show)  In 1954 Marilyn Monroe married Joe DiMaggio in New York City; Elvis Presley recorded his first single with Sun Records, "It's All Right", in Memphis, TN; and Dick Roberts, along with three other Pharr Yarn employees decided to "spruce up their town" for Christmas. Sixty-six years later, that "town" is known as "ChristmasTown, USA" & hundreds of thousands of people and cars travel through McAdenville to view the legacy of the special players that made it possible. ...

Pandemic Discoveries Of A Lifetime

December 08, 2020 16:06 - 21 minutes - 25.1 MB

(From The 12/05/2020 Show) Wes Lawson and Bill Bartee talk about a research team who were recently secluded during their time studying bird habitats in Hawaii. Due to their lack of both communication and world awareness, when the team emerged from their research period, they also made the discovery of ‘pandemic life’ – quite a surprise as they were not up to date on the world happenings. Plus, Wes and Bill discuss England's University of Exeter and their presenting of information on some of t...

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