Jasmine Katatikarn shares her almost 6 year long fertility journey. Together, Jasmine and Michelle discuss how difficult and lonely infertility can be for so many, the importance of advocating for yourself, as well as finding someone to talk to or a way to process and release the feelings and emotions such as grief, loss, guilt, and shame that often accompany infertility. Jasmine also explains when she was at the lowest point in her fertility journey, she decided to apply the creative and strategic mindset that she uses in her career as an artist. From this mindset she created The FREEdom Method Fertility Training which assists other women on their fertility journey by helping them to  Find their core values, Reframe their challenge, Explore creative solutions, and Execute their plan.