Jason Kirk is one big part of the Shutdown Fullcast, the internet's ONLY college football podcast, and the proprietor of Vacation Bible School, a podcast about the big, weird Holy Bible, made by and for Sunday School kids. (Support them on Patreon!) Jason is also a wonderful theologian and thinker about religion and spirituality, but firmly outside the Evangelical Industrial Complex, so I wanted to talk with him about how to make the church better on the inside. He has a unique perspective, going from the ultimate insider in Southern SBC megachurch Youth Groups to somewhat of an outsider, with many VALID critiques and concerns about the church. (And a great taste in Christian music.)


I love talking with Jason so much. Please listen to this conversation with an open mind. Some of what he has to say, you may disagree with (is Job a real story?) but please don't let that discourage you from hearing him. Jason has a prophetic edge, which I love, and he's speaking to a deeply spiritual longing that I think many in and out of the church will recognize. 


No matter where you are on your spiritual journey, you belong here and I'm glad you're here.


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