Austin Art Talk
109 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 year ago - ★★★★★ - 36 ratingsThe goal of the podcast is to facilitate connections with and to learn from the successes, struggles, life experience, and wisdom of the people featured, most of whom live and create in Austin, Texas. The honest conversational flow of these weekly long form interviews lends itself to some really great insights and information that is available to anyone who wants to listen. Join us to explore the origins, stories, lessons, lives and work of those in our community who are at the forefront of creative expression. The podcast is hosted by photographer, art enthusiast and collector, Scott David Gordon.
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Episode 59: Elizabeth Chapin - Deconstructing Nostalgia
March 21, 2019 00:00 - 1 hour - 30.1 MB"I was aware of the culture I grew up in, but I was unaware of the cost for other people, and also unaware of the cost for me. I think when you are raised in a culture like that you have definitions for yourself that feel very comfortable and safe and you’re not even really aware of that. And so you start thinking, why am I telling myself these things? Why is that true? Why does that have to be true? It started seeming like an impoverished narrative. Or like a small narrative that I wanted to...
Episode 58: Stella Alesi - Journeying
March 12, 2019 23:00 - 1 hour - 35.7 MB"When I was eleven I said I was going to be an artist, it’s just part of the process. You have to make bad work sometimes, it’s part of the deal. If you are not willing to make bad art then you are not willing to take chances. You have to make bad art to get to the good stuff. It’s just part of it." Text courtesy of Stella's website Stella Alesi (https://www.alesiart.com/) has resided in Austin, Texas for the last 25 years. Her work has been exhibited in commercial and university galleries t...
Episode 57: Ariel René Jackson
March 04, 2019 13:00 - 1 hour - 28.7 MB"For me the success of a piece is if I’m able to create a weird sense of peace and disturbance to keep people there longer to sort of sit with it. Sometimes it can be hard because a lot of my work on the surface level you’re not able to see that research, you’re not able to receive that information. So a lot of it is the form and the experience with the form. I’m not necessarily interested in making didactic work. I’m very interested in using research and personal archives and communal archiv...
Episode 56: Koichi Yamamato - Making A Mark
February 11, 2019 13:00 - 1 hour - 35.2 MB"Failure or success is really subjective, and it’s conditional. The one moment I might consider a failure, I learned something so I guess since I learned something maybe it wasn’t a failure. By having those prints I will open up another possibility that I didn’t even consider thinking of. I think those are fertilizer. Probably it stinks in the beginning but it will eventually become part of a very important fuel for the creativity. Then try to solve the problem from the difficult condition in...
Episode 55: Alyssa Taylor Wendt
January 28, 2019 13:00 - 1 hour - 34.9 MB"As an artist you have to remember that you are always working. And you’re not just working when you are in the studio actually making something. You are working when you’re sleeping, dreaming, reading, looking at other peoples art, having conversations, and tripping over a rock. It’s all a part of your practice. To be able to embrace every element of your life as being a part of your practice takes the pressure off of going to the studio and the blank page. Just think of your studio as anoth...
Episode 54: Alejandra Almuelle - Revealing the Presence
January 21, 2019 13:00 - 53 minutes - 24.3 MB"Seriously it's like being in love, staying in the studio." Alejandra Almuelle (https://www.alejandraalmuelle.com/) is a full time ceramic artist who creates sculptures and pottery that often merge traditional and contemporary styles and often feature the human figure. Her most recent and largest exhibition of work to date titled The Journey, interpreted the hero’s journey and was inspired by events in her own life. By making pottery, which she sells online and at art fairs, she is able to c...
Episode 53: Seth Orion Schwaiger
January 08, 2019 00:00 - 56 minutes - 25.7 MB"In a way you can use words as a lure to get people to think in a way that’s more expansive. To think in visuals, and in space, and in symbol that’s beyond language. To find meaning between words. So writing about art is really fun. Because art can mean things that really can’t be touched on with language. But you can kind of lead a reader to it. You can take these glancing blows at what arts meaning is and maybe through that long series of glancing blows map out a silhouette. And maybe peopl...
Episode 52: Sharon Bridgforth - Circles Of Relationship
December 17, 2018 19:00 - 1 hour - 34.6 MB"We need to not only find ourselves but we need to find a way to each other. It’s really hard to show up fully for others if you haven’t shown up for yourself. It’s really hard to have the hard conversations we need to have right now, so that we can move together collectively, so that we can tend our relationships, if we haven’t done that for ourselves. I think it’s really hard to make courageous choices as artists if we haven’t done that work. Because our fear and the things that we are hidi...
Episode 51: Drew Riley - Gender Portraits
December 10, 2018 12:00 - 1 hour - 31.2 MB"One of the things that helped me be a better ally to other communities is to believe people. Generally you don’t need evidence to trust if a whole community is saying something. If a whole community is saying we experience this or if a whole community is saying this hurts us. Trust that they know and trust that their experience is authentic." "Do what works for you. Give yourself permission. I had so many people tell me what real art was or what is right or wrong. There would be times where ...
Episode 50: Tammie Rubin - Everything You Ever
December 03, 2018 13:00 - 1 hour - 32.7 MB"I think that the thread has definitely been that it’s all sculptural. I’m truly a 3D person. The idea and the making of the work kind of happen at the same time. Or maybe I cant identify exactly what comes first but I feel like I am pushed forward in the studio though making itself. Researching is a part of that but I actually have to have my hands moving." Tammie Rubin (http://tammierubin.com/) is a ceramic sculptor and professor at St. Edwards University (https://www.stedwards.edu/directo...
Episode 49: Darden Smith - The Habit Of Noticing
November 17, 2018 11:00 - 56 minutes - 25.9 MB"Getting in the habit of noticing is what is essential to actually being an artist. You have to first off get in the habit seeing things and noticing. It's not only visually seeing, it’s hearing, and listening, and tasting and using your senses. Wake up and think, what am I going to notice today, because the work is around you. The input that you need to do the work, there is no shortage of that, if you are paying attention." Darden Smith (http://www.dardensmith.com) is a Texas born singer/s...
Episode 48: Randal Ford - The Animal Kindgom
October 27, 2018 10:00 - 1 hour - 30.3 MB“We have literally been depicting animals since we could make artwork, since we could paint on the walls of caves. It’s pretty much across every culture and civilization in history, animals have been part of artwork that’s been created. I just found that so fascinating and when I was thinking about how to put what I was doing down on paper. That felt like the cornerstone idea of why I am doing this and why these animal portraits can be important and part of this, a part of humanities portraya...
Episode 47: Maura Grace Ambrose - Folk Fibers
October 22, 2018 01:15 - 1 hour - 35.2 MB"Being a parent I can relate. I know what it’s like now to not be able to work on projects that I want to work on. And those are like real life obstacles, whether it’s a day job, or a sick family member, or a young child that needs taken care of. There are a lot of obstacles in our life that keep us from being creative. Whether they’re just excuses we make up for ourselves or they are real. We still need to be creative. That’s the breakthrough that I made. It seemed harder to do my work as an...
Episode 46: Shawn Camp - Dualities of Existence
October 12, 2018 18:00 - 1 hour - 30.1 MB"A single object can be these extremely different things depending on the context. When the lights are bright in the gallery a whole bunch of what that painting is becomes completely obscured, it’s not even present at all or barely visible or not even there. And when the lights cycle off it's the same thing, there’s a whole bunch of that painting that’s not there at all, but all those things that were hidden before are now visible. I like that back and forth and that feeling of transformation...
Episode 45: Dameon Lester - Serene Disturbance
October 06, 2018 10:00 - 50 minutes - 23.3 MB"I had never been to a glacier. I had this vision of them being these giant massive things that were just there. I never really thought about how much of a living organism they are. Growing and retreating, melting, and expanding and changing. When we went on hikes on the glacier the pathway changes constantly because of the nature of the glacier and the route. With climate change these things that have been around for thousands of years are disappearing. This object I thought was a permanent ...
Episode 44: Vy Ngo - Present In This Moment
September 24, 2018 04:00 - 1 hour - 29 MB"We are all connected. We need to be a village for each other and raise and support each other through everything. Being in the art community what I have found is that I've finally found my tribe. I found my tribe in the people that understand the emotional roller coaster ride of being an artist and the constant self questioning and pushing. It’s that hunger in us to constantly be better." After going to medical school and practicing as a pediatrician for many years, and at the same time gro...
Episode 43: Vincent Valdez - The Beginning is Near
September 17, 2018 22:00 - 1 hour - 36 MB"These images like murals are images that can speak to people and that people can identify with. You don’t have to be from a certain background or certain city or community or ethnicity or political belief or religious belief. These are my visual memorials to the epic and endless struggle of the human experience." From Vincent Valdez’s point of view we have a choice as to which way we want to go as a country. We can start again. It could be the beginning of a darker chapter in our history or...
Episode 42: Marjorie Moore - Drawn from Nature
September 08, 2018 22:15 - 1 hour - 27.5 MB“I don’t remember what artist said this but I’ve always liked this. She said ‘There are no dumb ideas.’ And I always keep that in my head. Maybe you are not going like it when you get to that point of is this done or isn’t or who cares. You have to try it. You have to see where it goes. That’s why we’re artists. Were allowed to do that. Nobody is telling us you can’t do that. There might be people saying that but they are wrong. You can do this. You can do whatever you want. That’s why you’re...
Episode 41: Valerie Fowler - Layers of Meaning
August 25, 2018 14:00 - 1 hour - 30.7 MB"For me it only becomes an artwork if it has the potential to have a lot of layers of meaning. I have my themes that I always want to emphasize and I’m always looking for ways buoy those themes and so I’m on the look out. The aesthetics are never the thing that get me. It’s if there is something out there that I see that will speak to what I am already thinking about. Memory plays a big part when I come back to my studio in what I want to infuse back into my paintings. So I know that it was a...
Episode 40: John Paul Caponigro - Find Your Way
August 18, 2018 12:00 - 1 hour - 31.1 MB"You really need to define success for yourself, separately from the reactions of other people. If you are waiting to publish the book or get collected by museum X or all of those things that depend on other people, you need to reframe success for yourself. You can't control them nor should you really want to. You could hope that they would come along for the ride. Define success for yourself and then focus on making sure that happens. You can control that. You can get involved in that and ma...
Episode 39: Caitlin G McCollom - Following My Vision
August 06, 2018 23:00 - 1 hour - 34.5 MB"You have to cultivate your own ability to be inspired. As I become more mature as an artist its how do I create the circumstances to cultivate the mood and the mental state I need to be in to really connect with my vision as an artist." Four years ago when she hit a low point in her life, artist Caitlin McCollom (https://cgmccollom.com/) could not have imagined that today she would be a full time artist with a successful career. When you don’t have anything, you don’t have anything to lose...
Episode 38: Claude Van Lingen
July 31, 2018 02:30 - 52 minutes - 24.6 MB“My advice would be to work as hard as you can on your work and get interested. Use anything you can, get hold of anything you can. Study that and work at it. You have to work at it a lot. Research, do your work, and get as much knowledge as you can from as many people as you can. That’s about it.” At the age of eighty seven Claude Van Lingen has had a long career as an artist and is still doing as much as he is able to create work everyday. He has since he was a child sought to learn about...
Episode 37: Pooneh Ghana - For the Love of Music
July 21, 2018 10:00 - 56 minutes - 26.3 MB"It’s easy to get stagnant with what you are doing. I just want to keep staying motivated and keep getting better. But also just not being so hard on myself. It’s easy to be your own worst critic and just think everything you are doing is horrible and getting in those ruts. But to be able to just pick yourself right back up and just be like, OK why am I like this. Why do I feel like this? What's the next step?" Most of us have seen great live and behind the scenes images, or portraits and p...
Episode 36: William T. Carson & Rebecca Rothfus Harrell - SOURCE MATERIAL
July 16, 2018 00:00 - 56 minutes - 26.2 MB“In one of our early meetings I expressed to Rebecca that I was having some confusion around how do I continue to present things and ideas that I have worked on in the past. Working with this material of coal but also introduce something new and explore new territory. She really didn’t hesitate and was like, go wild, don’t slow yourself down. Just keep creating and keep making and explore, you know keep exploring. And so I think that is something I will take away from this show is that idea o...
Episode 35: Madeline Irvine - Naturally Curious
July 08, 2018 04:00 - 55 minutes - 25.9 MB"I just love learning from the work. Just leaving it open and learning. It’s part of my being in the world. I try to be patient with myself and my artwork. There were years where it felt like it didn’t connect to the larger art world. But I just had to keep working. And I think you never know what’s coming unless you keep working, unless you keep that thread going. I think developing as a person is a part of what goes into the work. Who you are and what you think about and what's important to...
Episode 34: Dawn Okoro - Punk Noir
June 23, 2018 10:00 - 1 hour - 31.1 MB"For me authenticity is being truthful, and just allowing yourself to be vulnerable." "I express myself through fashion by just letting it flow and just walking into my closet and kind of treating it like a palette and just wearing what I feel and grabbing pieces that I feel work for me instinctively at that moment." Dawn Okoro is a figurative painter who uses bright and bold saturated colors and as she has in her most recent exhibition, Punk Noir, captured the spirit and presence of creati...
Episode 33: Paul Soileau
June 16, 2018 10:00 - 1 hour - 30.7 MB"It’s not easy but for me it’s very enjoyable to put on these wigs and be these people. One mainly because I am an entertainer and I like to entertain people and I like what these characters do to people, and to me. But then in a deeper sense I’m very much exploring and reclaiming a lot things about myself that were taken from me as a kid. And that’s a slow, slow process." Paul Soileau simply considers himself an artist even though he does practice and inhabit many different forms of art, the...
Episode 32: Laura Caffrey - Reject/Respect
June 09, 2018 19:45 - 54 minutes - 25.4 MB"I am generally not thinking about what it means because I don’t know that I am imbuing it with any particular sort of meaning. I’m more inclined to let the viewer take what they want from it. I’m not generally sending a message. Except, look at this amazing old stuff. That is the message. Look at this stuff that you walk by everyday and don’t care about." Laura Caffrey has spent the last 20 years creating artwork out of junk. Well maybe not always what you might consider straight-up junk but...
Episode 31: Charles Heppner - Moved by Beauty
June 03, 2018 17:00 - 57 minutes - 27 MB“This is what I want, this is what makes me fulfilled, is to make work. I need to do that. In order to go further, in order to grow, as an artist you have to do! You can’t ask why all the time. You can ask why later.” Visual artist Charles Heppner’s work spans many different mediums and has many themes but ultimately focuses on the sanctity of beauty, especially in nature, how its appreciation makes us human, communication, and the interconnectedness of everything. He is devoted to both bein...
Episode 30: Jason Phelps - The Creative Self
May 26, 2018 10:00 - 59 minutes - 27.8 MB"Who are the people in your life that inspire you, that support you, that you can connect with on a regular basis, to keep that creative spirit going, to inspire you to explore things that you maybe never have?" "If you have something that lights your fire, that really inspires you, find a way to do it and surround yourself with people who are doing it also." For the last thirty five years Jason Phelps has been studying and practicing a diversity of performing arts including acting, dance, ...
Episode 29: America Martin - It's Not Enough Just to Look
May 19, 2018 21:00 - 59 minutes - 27.7 MB"The way that I look at things, anything, even this big storm brewing outside, I feel like my eyes aren’t acknowledging it enough. I feel almost restless that I’m not able to look at it and be satisfied. I want to capture it again. I want to hold the moment again through my hand or a gesture of that big tree blowing in the wind. I want to recycle and feel it again but through my translation. Because I think this world is so gosh darn gorgeous and people are so interesting that it’s not enough...
Episode 28: Elizabeth Chiles - Weave
May 12, 2018 21:00 - 56 minutes - 26.2 MB"What are the sensual takeaways from being in a place? When I think about how it feels to be lying in my backyard in the hammock watching the pecan trees it's not static images of green leaves. It's spectral light, it's rainbow light moving through. It has pink and it has orange and it has all of these colors." Elizabeth Chiles (http://www.elizabethchiles.com/) creates photographic collages and complex composites with images she has taken of nature. Growing up her love of the outdoors and th...
Episode 27: Faustinus - El Subconsciente
May 05, 2018 10:00 - 1 hour - 28.4 MB"We all are photographers. Everybody will have their own excuses to take photos. But to me just being able to keep shooting I think it is already in my veins, in my mind, in my heart, in my soul." Photographer Faustinus Deraet (http://www.faustinusderaet.com/) learns more about himself every time he clicks the button on his camera, captures an image, and makes a print. These images are windows into his subconscious (subconsciente) which end up revealing something deeper that needs to be expr...
Episode 26: Karen Hawkins - The Pink Bow Project
April 29, 2018 22:30 - 55 minutes - 25.8 MB"I am just grateful that people are finding this as an outlet to be able to say that this happened to them. As a way of walking through and finding some semblance of healing in it or using it as their very first outcry. There are people who have reached out to me who have never told anyone else……There is a true feeling of empowerment in doing this. It’s been so cathartic for me. Whether you are a survivor or not the one thing that I hope will happen is that it will make people talk." The Pin...
Episode 25: Jenn Hassin - A Life Of Service
April 22, 2018 03:00 - 1 hour - 33.5 MB"If everyone that wants to make a difference, just started making and taking those steps to actually make a difference, then imagine the world we would live in. I think that doing good today is invaluable and we need it. Just do it. Just start. Just take the necessary steps to make it happen." Jenn Hassin (https://www.jennhassin.com/) cares about the world we live in and is trying to figure out what we can do as a society to make it a better place. Her artwork is often focused on raising th...
Episode 24: AKIRASH
April 14, 2018 16:30 - 1 hour - 38.1 MB"People they are the cloth that protect me, that cover me. Without them, I’m nothing, I can't do anything. So they take me to this level. They should not leave me here. They should continue. Be behind me. Be forward. Be at the back. Be at the side. And I will also do my best and continue to be there and be contributing to this world we are living." Olaniyi Rasheed Akindiya is most well known by the name AKIRASH (https://www.artwithakirash.com/). He is a unique interdisciplinary artist who ha...
Episode 23: Ron Berry - Fusebox Festival
April 08, 2018 01:30 - 1 hour - 28.9 MB"Within our festival there’s space for really different kinds of expression of art, and some of those are perhaps harder immediately to relate to. But we’re holding space for those artists to challenge things, to experiment, to tinker. To help us as people, as artists, think about things in new ways, and give us things to chew on. I love things that have mystery to them, that I don’t understand." The annual Fusebox Festival (http://schedule.fuseboxfestival.com/) aims to allow for a meaningf...
Episode 22: Elizabeth Hendley - The Power of Art Therapy
March 31, 2018 10:00 - 1 hour - 35.5 MB“Giving people compassion and respect, it just goes such a long way to healing. You never know what somebody is going through or what could happen in their lives.” A lot of people don’t know what art therapy is but for those who do they probably understand and appreciate its power and potential. Elizabeth Hendley (https://www.dellchildrens.net/services-and-programs/child-life-services-program/expressive-therapies/), the art therapist at Dell Children’s Medical Center, might not think she is ...
Episode 21: Natalia Sylvester - Everyone Knows You Go Home
March 24, 2018 10:00 - 1 hour - 28 MB“We all have creativity in us and we’re all very imaginative people but we also have all these voices that tell us we’re not. I just don’t give myself credit for it. I don’t think any of us do.” Novelist Natalia Sylvester (https://www.nataliasylvester.com/) says of her most recent book, she is writing for the people who have shared common experiences around immigration and know about being caught in between. These powerful and sometimes painful stories need to be out in the open so that the ...
Episode 20: Griffon Ramsey - Chainsaw Art
March 17, 2018 10:00 - 1 hour - 31.1 MB"That's the thing that got me excited about being creative is that you start with nothing and then something happens. We have so much power as creatives." If you get to the point in your artistic career where you are invited to help carve and build a church and sculptures out of ice in Slovakia for three weeks, you might think you have made it. But for Griffon Ramsey (https://griffonramsey.com/) it is only a part of the beginning of the next exciting chapter. After spending many years working...
Episode 19: Deborah Roberts - Dedicated to the Work
March 10, 2018 11:00 - 1 hour - 30.1 MB"I’ve always dedicated my life to the work, and what ever the work needed that’s what I did." It has been an incredible year for Austin based artist Deborah Roberts. But after decades of hard work and scholarship it’s not really a surprise. She was already an established artist long before deciding to go back to school to get her MFA in 2014, to study and find the language and direction for her new work. Her imagery started out in a very romantic Americana style but after a time that didn’t c...
Episode 18: Roi James - Leaps of Faith
March 03, 2018 14:00 - 1 hour - 33.6 MB"You're an artist, you can create your future" After twenty years of being a full time artist you learn a few things. Like how to make simple but transcendent art, and how powerful and capable you really are. At least that could be said for Roi James, someone who has made it through a lot of adversity and challenges of belief to find success. But it’s not over yet. After many leaps of faith he’s gotten to where he is now, but at this very moment he is in midair hoping to again find firm foot...
Episode 17: Kirk Weddle - The Next Big Gig
February 24, 2018 21:00 - 50 minutes - 23.5 MBAdvertising and editorial photographer Kirk Weddle has worked with a lot of different local and corporate clients on jobs that have taken him all over the world. Throughout his career he has honed his skills photographing people and loves to do environmental portraits which often include the opportunity to visit some interesting and exciting locations. He has also specialized in a very difficult and adventurous type of photography. Underwater. Near the beginning of his career he got a big bre...
Episode 16: Bale Creek Allen - No Limitations
February 17, 2018 11:00 - 1 hour - 38 MBBale Creek Allen has chosen to pursue a beautiful and rich life and live by his own rules. He is a prolific artist with a great work ethic who creates art in a very diverse amount of ways and with many different materials. Bronze, neon, sculpture, painting, wood, photography, music, spoken word and theater to name a few. Bale grew up in California, went to school in Boston and now calls Texas his home. He is a working artist with a great Austin gallery that exhibits fantastic national and int...
Episode 15: Michael Anthony García
February 03, 2018 19:00 - 56 minutes - 26.4 MBMichael Anthony García (https://www.mrmichaelme.com/) is a multidisciplinary artist, independent curator, and activist. His work takes many forms and attempts to addresses personal, local, and global issues, often highlighting those in this world who are marginalized, unseen, and under appreciated. Whether he is curating a show of someone else’s work, doing a live performance interacting with a video and audience, or presenting a very personal one man exhibit made up of sculptures created fro...
Episode 14: Nancy Mims - It Begins With A Walk
January 21, 2018 02:00 - 54 minutes - 25.6 MBBy seeking out the mundane and overlooked visual aspects of our world and sharing them through her perspective Nancy Mims shows us the beauty and expansiveness we might be missing. There can be order from chaos and it can be photographed. Not stopping there, by printing these images on fabrics, sometimes weaved back to together or embellished with vibrant stitching, she enhances these views to create a very personal take on what is right in from of us all. Our lovely conversation delves into ...
Episode 13: Flip Solomon - (Bonus Stories) Lek Chailert and the Hare Dream
January 16, 2018 19:00 - 15 minutes - 7.61 MBThis is bonus content from the interview with Flip Solomon Episode 12. The first inspiring story is about Lek Chailert who with the help of many others saves and rehabilitates hundreds of animals in Thailand. The second story is of a dream that inspired a drawing and created a connection. If you haven't listened to Flip's main interview please go back and check that out first. Thanks! Breaking Cycles: Lek Chailert https://uploads.fireside.fm/images/4/41335247-836c-4f4a-8a8b-aeca55f3227a/1YvK...
Episode 12: Flip Solomon - Darkest Before Dawn
January 13, 2018 23:00 - 1 hour - 30.8 MBFlip Solomon grew up with art being at the center of her world but after leaving home found herself exploring everything else life has to offer for many years. But with the arrival of her daughter and the necessity of self care and meditation, to manage her newly intensified narcolepsy, she found her passion for creating art again and started translating the themes and symbols found in her very vivid dreams into epic, touching, and timeless pen and ink drawings. In the last five years she has...
Episode 11: PRINTAUSTIN - Cathy Savage & Elvia Perrin
December 30, 2017 12:00 - 1 hour - 29 MBPRINTAUSTIN is one of the top art events in town that happens every January and February. Cathy Savage and Eliva Perrin started this celebration of printmaking five years ago, and with a lot of hard work and some help along the way they have created a month long community building and art promoting steamroller. Join me for a fun conversation about their own careers, how they met and started PrintAustin, and many of the great exhibits, artist talks, demonstrations and workshops that will be ha...
Episode 10: Claire Howard - Curating & The Open Road
December 23, 2017 12:00 - 56 minutes - 26.4 MBThis interview is with Claire Howard, the Assistant Curator of Modern and Contemporary Art at the Blanton Museum of Art here in Austin. The museum is currently hosting a traveling photography exhibit called The Open Road: Photography and the American Road Trip. Claire speaks about the content and images that make up the exhibit and shares what goes on behind the scenes to plan for and integrate an exhibition into a new space. She also had the chance to add elements to the original line up tha...