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Cover 2 College Football pod

410 episodes - English - Latest episode: 12 days ago - ★★★★ - 506 ratings

The Athlon Sports Cover 2 College Football Podcast previews and reviews every aspect of the greatest sport on the planet.

Join Athlon’s editorial team every week of the preseason, regular season, postseason and offseason for a breakdown of the entire circus that is college football.

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Wk 13 Numbers and YUGE coaching news

November 29, 2021 16:45 - 1 hour - 96.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talks college football. 17: most points allowed in a game 297 yards, 5 TDs rushing allowed 0 points in the second half 118-0 record since 2004 18-1 when rushing for 200 yards 10: record regular season wins 138 total yards rushing 26 seconds 40-13 margin of victory 162-23 combined score in last four 24 games in a row with a TD Playoff ranking debates: Bama vs. Cincinnati vs. Ohio St vs. Ok-State vs. Notre Dame? What happens on Tuesday? Linc...

A Rivalry Feast for the Ages

November 24, 2021 10:00 - 55 minutes - 75.9 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 13. The Game Bedlam Iron Bowl Egg Bowl The Civil War Wisc-Minn Penn St-Michigan St UNC-NC State Wake-Boston College Boise St-San Diego St Cincinnati-ECU Picks Against the Spread: Steven: 5-4 LW, 50-47 YTD 👍🏼 Braden: 6-2 LW, 35-39 YTD 📈

Wk 12 Numbers: Blowouts, records, rankings and Florida

November 22, 2021 16:33 - 1 hour - 83.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. We recap Week 12, preview the college football rankings and talk Florida Gators coaching search. 49-point margin of victory  31-point margin of victory 559 record passing yards 108 total yards allowed 7 sacks in one game 5 consecutive 10-win seasons 3,857 single season passing yards record 11-0 for second time in program history  34 consecutive wins at home 300 passing yards, 200 rushing yards 62 points scored, 6-0 at ...

Stinky spreads and playoff implications

November 17, 2021 18:39 - 1 hour - 86.8 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk playoff rankings, Virginia Tech and preview Week 12 in college football. Mich St at Ohio St Oregon at Utah Wake Forest at Clemson Arkansas at Bama SMU at Cincinnati Virginia at Pitt Iowa St at Oklahoma Ok-State at Texas Tech Baylor at Kansas St Virginia Tech at Miami UAB at UTSA Picks Against the Spread: Steven: 5-5 LW, 45-43 YTD 💰 Braden: 3-3 LW, 29-37 YTD 🤷🏼‍♂️

Wk 11 Numbers: Oklahoma, OSU, Oregon, Ole Miss

November 15, 2021 16:08 - 56 minutes - 77.8 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk recap Week 11 in college football. We also preview the playoff rankings and talk Washington's coaching vacancy. 260 total yards allowed 257 yards rushing 47.2 points per game 2.29 points per opportunity 9-1 at home in last 10 1982 (that's all) 2008 (that's all) 40-0 run 300+ yards rushing 42 points allowed at half 3 points scored

Survive and Advance (on the road)

November 10, 2021 18:29 - 1 hour - 87.7 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Week 11 in college football. 1. Oklahoma-Baylor 2. Michigan-Penn St 3. Texas A&M-Ole Miss 4. NC State-Wake Forest 5. Purdue-Ohio St 6. Notre Dame-Virginia 7. Georgia-Tennessee 8. North Carolina-Pitt 9. Washington St-Oregon 10. Minnesota-Iowa 11. Nevada-San Diego St Picks Against the Spread: Steven: 4-7 LW, 40-38 YTD 🧐 Braden: 3-6 LW, 26-34 YTD 😬

Wk 10 Numbers: Historic upsets and great defenses

November 08, 2021 14:51 - 54 minutes - 75 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Week 10 in college football. Before we get into the numbers, we talk Texas Tech, coordinator firings, expansion and preview Tuesday's rankings. 42 losses to unranked teams 17 wins by Purdue 3.2 YPP by Auburn 0.2 yards per carry for Bama 31-3 run for UNC 133 yards allowed by Ok-State 531 yards of total offense 40.5% of Iowa St's Big 12 wins 13:52 time of possession for Vols 8 snaps inside the Cincy 12 190-176 outscoring B1G teams

Rankings, Expansion and Week 10

November 03, 2021 16:58 - 1 hour - 82.9 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football rankings, conference expansion and Week 10: Auburn at Texas A&M Ok-State at West Virginia Michigan St at Purdue Wake at North Carolina Miss St at Arkansas Oregon at Wash Tenn at Kentucky LSU at Bama Texas at Iowa St Ohio St at Nebraska Clemson at Louisville Picks Against the Spread: Steven: 3-6 LW, 36-31-YTD Braden: 1-4 LW, 23-29  

Wk 9 Numbers: Big Ten, TCU and the playoff

November 01, 2021 15:50 - 1 hour - 87 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Week 9. TCU, Gary Patterson part ways His legacy, how good a job is TCU? What to watch in debut rankings Our Top 4 and how we'd vote Week 9 Numbers to Know: 2-0 record against Michigan 5 TDs to 4 TDs 4 sacks and field goals 0 TD passes 8-0, AP Top 10 3 straight games 156 total yards 92.3 completion % 18 one-score losses 1,322 combined yards 56-7 five-quarter stretch

Big Ten East brawls and a Cocktail Party

October 27, 2021 16:51 - 1 hour - 83 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 9. Michigan at Michigan St Georgia vs. Florida Ole Miss at Auburn Penn St at Ohio St Iowa at Wisconsin Texas at Baylor SMU at Houston Fresno St at San Diego St North Carolina at Notre Dame UCLA at Utah Virginia at BYU Picks Against the Spread: Steven: 4-3 LW, 33-25 YTD Braden: 3-4 LW, 23-25 YTD

Wk 8 Numbers: OT, OSUs, Offense and state of Oregon

October 25, 2021 14:57 - 41 minutes - 57.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Week 8 in college football. 52 ranked Ls, 9 unbeatens 10 consecutive 2-point failures 231-44 combined score 52 passing yards 12 AP top 10 wins 34-3 run 300 yards, 10 points 12.2 yards per play 19 point margin of victory 34 straight games 37 straight wins 4 teams    

AAC Expansion, Wazzu and Week 8

October 20, 2021 16:30 - 1 hour - 84.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. AAC Expansion: Who and why? Could all of these changes happen at once? Wazzu fires Rolo, no idea what he's doing Clemson at Pitt Ok-State at Iowa St Oregon at UCLA Ohio St at Indiana USC at Notre Dame LSU at Ole Miss Wisconsin at Purdue Tennessee at Alabama Utah at Oregon St NC State at Miami Mountain West Picks Against Spread: Steven: 4-4 LW, 29-22 YTD Braden: 3-4 LW, 20-21

Wk 7 Numbers: Coach O, Purdue, Utah and SEC QBs

October 18, 2021 14:53 - 40 minutes - 55.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall recap Week 7: 47 ranked losses 9-8 last two years 1974 12.1 Y/A, 210.93 Rating 28-0 6 yards 101 plays 203 yards 80.8% 2.8 yards per play 56 total points

Pac-12 South, SEC East Division Title Games

October 13, 2021 16:31 - 1 hour - 82.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 7. Kentucky at Georgia Ok-State at Texas Arizona St at Utah Auburn at Arkansas Florida at LSU Pitt at Virginia Tech Ole Miss at Tennessee TCU at Oklahoma NC State at Boston College BYU at Baylor Alabama at Mississippi St Also: Iowa, Iowa St, Nebraska, Texas A&M, Clemson, Oregon, Michigan St, Cincinnati Picks Against the Spread: Steven: 4-6 LW, 25-18 Braden: 3-5 LW, 17-17

Wk 6 Numbers: Bama, Iowa, Michigans and the Red River

October 11, 2021 15:02 - 44 minutes - 60.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall recap Week 6: 40 ranked teams 1st win ever 21-point comeback 95 total yards 26 to 23 6-0 first time since... 5-16 one-score games 4 touchdowns 13 point margin of victory 1,287 yards 21 total points 234.2 QB rating

Where national title dreams go to die

October 06, 2021 16:26 - 54 minutes - 74.2 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 6: Penn St at Iowa Oklahoma-Texas Georgia at Auburn Arkansas at Ole Miss Michigan at Nebraska LSU at Kentucky Bama at Texas A&M Notre Dame at Va Tech Utah at USC Stanford at Arizona St Boise St at BYU ALSO: Ohio St, Michigan St, Virginia, Louisville, UAB, TCU, Baylor, Tennessee and more! Against the Spread: Steven: 6-4 LW, 21-14 YTD Braden: 6-1 LW, 14-12 YTD

Wk 5 Numbers: Domination, Upsets, Turnovers, Scoring

October 04, 2021 14:03 - 34 minutes - 47.1 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Week 5 of college football: 34 ranked teams have lost in 2021 4 teams 1 TD and 1 win +12 turnover margin Sept. 9, 2017 5-1 against top 3 8-7 since 2019 24.0 points per game 1986 194.7 and 52.4 118 points 0-5

The best weekend of football (on paper)

September 29, 2021 16:36 - 59 minutes - 82.2 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 5 of college football. Ole Miss at Alabama Arkansas at Georgia Cincinnati at Notre Dame Florida at Kentucky Baylor at Oklahoma State Michigan at Wisconsin Auburn at LSU Iowa at Maryland Texas at TCU Oregon at Stanford Arizona St at UCLA And: Oklahoma, Penn St, Ohio St, Texas A&M, Boston College, Clemson, Wake Forest, the Mountain West and so much more! Picks Against the Spread: Steven: 6-2 LW, 15-10 YTD Braden: 4-2 LW, 8-1...

Wk 4 Numbers: Arkansas, Brian Kelly and Big 12 defenses

September 27, 2021 15:01 - 34 minutes - 47.9 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Week 4. 25 losses 1 win 31 points off turnovers 3.9 yards per play The year 2014 363 yards 16 total points 14 sacks allowed 78 total yards 4-0 teams The year 1960

A Double Mouthpiece Weekend

September 22, 2021 16:26 - 53 minutes - 73.6 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 4. Notre Dame-Wisconsin Texas A&M-Arkansas Clemson at NC State West Virginia at Oklahoma Iowa St at Baylor Kansas St at Ok-State LSU at Miss St Rutgers at Michigan Nebraska at Michigan St UCLA at Stanford North Carolina at Georgia Tech And so many more games! Picks Against the Spread (WOOF!) Steven: 9-8 YTD, 2-4 LW Braden: 4-9 YTD, 1-5 LW

Wk 3 Numbers: Sean Clifford, Clemson, Pac-12 and refs

September 20, 2021 15:10 - 35 minutes - 49.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Week 3: 87.5 completion percentage No. 4 19 ranked teams 6 times 1,842 yards rushing 4.8 yards per play (6.1 YPP) 1,273 total yards 19.7 points per game 3 unbeaten teams 5 Mountain West wins, 3 BYU wins No. 1

Auburn-Penn St is the reason we love this sport

September 15, 2021 16:28 - 57 minutes - 78.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 3, however, before we get into the games, the guys talk USC's job opening. Why fire Clay Helton now? How good is this job? And what the media gets wrong about the list of names. Auburn-Penn St Alabama-Florida Cincinnati-Indiana Arizona St-BYU Virginia Tech-West Virginia Virginia-North Carolina Oklahoma St-Boise St Nebraska-Oklahoma Michigan St-Miami Nevada-Kansas St Mississippi St-Memphis Picks Against the Spread Battle: Stev...

Wk 2 Numbers: Ohio St D, Iowa, expansion and SEC QBs

September 13, 2021 13:51 - 34 minutes - 47.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk week 2 of college football. 236 yards rushing allowed per game +4 turnover margin +4 new Big 12 teams 11.5 yards per carry The year 2017 333 yards 341 yards 12 total touchdowns 4.5 yards per play 197 yards rushing 2-2 8

Nationwide Data Collection in Week 2

September 08, 2021 17:03 - 54 minutes - 74.8 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 2. Iowa at Iowa St Oregon at Ohio St Utah at BYU Washington at Michigan Texas at Arkansas Missouri at Kentucky NC State at Miss State Texas A&M at Colorado Cal at TCU Pitt at Tennessee Stanford at USC ALSO: UGa, ND, Miami, Navy and more Gambling Standings: Steven: 3-2 LW, 3-2 YTD Braden: 2-1 LW, 2-1 YTD

Wk 1 Numbers: UGa, LSU, Big Ten showdowns, Pac-12 North

September 07, 2021 14:41 - 41 minutes - 57.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall give you the numbers you need to know about Week 1 of the college football season. 11.8 points per game 11-0 in neutral site openers 7 sacks 56.3 yards per TD 159 offensive snaps 1.9 yards per carry 8.3 yards per play 1-5 in a division 7-7 in a conference 661 yards rushing 6-2 debuts Week 1 Injury Report

Five Day College Football Bacchanal!

September 01, 2021 16:57 - 56 minutes - 77.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall preview Week 1: Georgia-Clemson LSU at UCLA Penn St at Wisconsin Alabama-Miami Notre Dame at Florida St Indiana at Iowa North Carolina at Virginia Tech Louisville-Ole Miss Louisiana at Texas West Virginia at Maryland San Jose St at USC And more: Oregon, Michigan, Oklahoma

Wk 0 Numbers: Scott Frost, UCLA, Ohio St, UCF

August 30, 2021 14:47 - 27 minutes - 37.1 MB

Braden Gall and Steven Lassan give you the 11 numbers college football fans need to know. Monday Starting 11: Week 0 1.8 yards per carry 4-11 conference record $15 million 8-4 when rushing for 200 yards 9 starting QBs have been named 0 expansion happening 4 ranked teams in action In the year 2000! 0 snaps taken 115 games coached 66 offensive snaps per game

Official Playoff Picks/Preseason Power Ranks

August 25, 2021 09:00 - 58 minutes - 80.2 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. What can listeners expect from us this fall. Final Conference Predictions What we think happens in the Playoff What we want to happen in the Playoff QB battles being settled across the country Injuries continue: Georgia, NW, South Carolina Week 0: Nebraska and UCLA take center stage Over/Unders: KY, ND, Utah, NC St, TCU, MSU, NW  ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 scheduling alliance WHY are they doing this?  What does it mean for t...

Quiet Camps and Magazine Regrets

August 18, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 85.3 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Camps have been super quiet Does that mean we are in for another 2007? ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 scheduling alliance? QB battles and injuries Developments in the Pac-12 South and SEC AP, Coaches and Athlon Sports polls What we regret from the magazine? Utah, Kentucky, TCU, NWestern too low? LSU, USC, Auburn, Texas, Arizona St too high?

All the best dadgummit non-conferences games

August 11, 2021 10:00 - 59 minutes - 81.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Bobby Bowden's legacy Calling him at home Guys who've launched entire programs Injuries, suspensions, camp notes All of the best non-conference games of the year From Georgia-Clemson to Florida-Florida St

Every single QB battle to watch in camp

August 03, 2021 21:15 - 55 minutes - 76.8 MB

Braden Gall and Steven Lassan talk college football. All quiet on the realignment front SEC not worried about playoff format Camps are opening up everywhere Ohio St, Texas A&M, Notre Dame LSU, Texas, Washington Auburn? Michigan? Kentucky, Boise, Florida St Miss St, Northwestern, BYU Tennessee, Baylor, Purdue, Stanford Wazzu, Oregon St, Michigan St

Everything you need to know about realignment

July 27, 2021 16:25 - 1 hour - 86.1 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Texas, OU leave: Is it good for college football? When will all of this happen? The concerning value of the Hateful 8 What are the Big 12's options? Stick together? Go it alone? What should the Big Ten, ACC do to counter? A B1G/Pac-12 scheduling alliance in the works What happens to the AAC and rest of G5? Which teams fit the best where? Our predictions on what happens Our fantasy land dream world scenarios!

Commissioners fire clear warning shots

July 21, 2021 10:00 - 42 minutes - 58.1 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Talkin' Season is here! Bob Bowlsby, Greg Sankey set the early tone What are Covid expectations for 2021? Getting vaccinated is a competitive advantage Don't complain this fall about the rules Sankey attacks the NCAA What does the NCAA actually do here? Are the capable of governing our sport? Could the P5 break away? We predict the future of P5 football

What coaches really think of your team 2021

July 14, 2021 10:00 - 1 hour - 85.6 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Anonymous Scouting Reports abound! We work our way across the country learning exactly what coaches really think about your college football team. Defensive schemes, QB development, recruiting trends, locker room culture and university relationships - there are no holds barred in our annual anonymous scouting reports.

On-Field Summer Storylines (and NIL reaction)

July 07, 2021 10:00 - 56 minutes - 78.1 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Surprised by breadth of NIL rollout? The good, bad and future of NIL Reggie Bush's Heisman? Division-by-division summer storylines: ACC: Coastal QBs, Atlantic defenses, BC Big 12: WVU culture, middle tier QBs, TCU B1G: Nebraska, Nebraska, Nebraska (and IU, PSU) P12: Coaching evals in the North, ASU issues SEC: TAMU QBs, LSU, offenses and challengers

What does the future of college football look like?

June 30, 2021 10:00 - 45 minutes - 62.1 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. What does the SCOTUS ruling mean? How will it impact college football structure? Our primary message to fans How will NIL laws be rolled out this week? Why some schools are ready but hesitant? Are there some schools that will benefit more? How much money changes hands? A theory on the Expansion Announcement

The 2021 Dream Road Trip

June 23, 2021 10:00 - 51 minutes - 70.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall are joined by Mitch Light of The Athletic to conduct our (fifth annual) 2021 Dream Road Trip. The band is back together! The rules are simple: You get to go to any college football game every week of the season but you cannot see any team more than once. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and no other rules really apply. Send us your dream road trip on the socials.

The 12-Team Format Fully Exposed

June 16, 2021 10:00 - 1 hour - 84.1 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Expansion is here and we've got the deets How did we get here? Will the regular season actually be diminished? Are we okay with top six champs getting in? What about ONLY champions getting a bye week? Irish get docked (but it's not as bad you think) Timing and location are major issues How will this expansion look out of the athletes? Why in God's name would be use nuetral sites? A retroactive look at the last seven year...

Playoff News, G5 Rankings Explained

June 09, 2021 10:00 - 50 minutes - 69.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Important people want a 12-team playoff Who does this format benefit? Who does NOT benefit from this format? Why it will help college football The unintended consequences Our Group of 5 rankings explained: Cincinnati leads healthy middle AAC class Two ranked Sun Belt teams, then... meh The Mountain West's return to form CUSA difficulties (and intrigue) NEW MAC PREDICTIONS Three really good Independents

Conference Rankings Explained: Big Ten

June 03, 2021 10:00 - 29 minutes - 40.1 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Big Ten football. Is the Big Ten becoming the ACC? Can anyone chase down Ohio St? Wisconsin vs. Iowa in the West? Penn St's bounce back, Indiana's metrics Minnesota, Michigan lead middle class Northwestern is obviously underrated Are we breaking up with Nebraska? Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers aaaaand... ? Bert at Illinois

Conference Rankings Explained: SEC

June 01, 2021 15:06 - 26 minutes - 37 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk SEC football: Same teams at the top chasing Bama Strange QBs situations with the contenders The impossibility of projecting LSU A healthy middle class led by Ole Miss Kentucky's stability v. Auburn's insanity Bottom of the West is strong Bottom of the East is NOT strong

Conference Rankings Explained: ACC

May 28, 2021 10:00 - 27 minutes - 37.8 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk ACC football. Clemson, UNC and Miami on top tier Middle of the ACC's growth NC State, BC, Wake, UL, FSU Virginia Tech, Pitt and Virginia Chaos in both divisions Veteran QBs will be critical Who will surprise? Established coaching staffs One bottom feeder that could surprise

Conference Rankings Explained: Big 12

May 26, 2021 10:00 - 23 minutes - 32.9 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Big 12 football. Top tier: Oklahoma vs. Iowa State What to do with Texas? Are TCU and WVU contenders? KSU bounces back? Hot seat in Lubbock And, well, Kansas

Conference Rankings Explained: Pac-12

May 24, 2021 21:08 - 24 minutes - 34.2 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk Pac-12 football. Oregon leads wide open top tier Washington, ASU, USC, Utah Caught in the middle: UCLA Trending up or down: Stanford, Wazzu? Oregon St better than we think? Bottom of the league

2021 Top 25 explained team-by-team

May 18, 2021 10:00 - 1 hour - 88.4 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Our top 25 is OUT! Who just missed the cut? Team-by-team breakdown of all 25 teams Who are the picks to win each division Who are the picks to win each conference Who are the picks to make the playoff? Who is going to win the national title?

Actual data on the transfer portal

May 12, 2021 10:00 - 50 minutes - 69.8 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. 2021 magazine news! NIL legislation How many players are in the portal? Year over year transfer trends Where are players leaving? Where are players going? Who is benefiting the most? What are the unintended consequences? What rules need to be changed? GLORY LASTS FOREVER

Earth-shattering reactions to the NFL Draft

May 05, 2021 10:00 - 49 minutes - 68.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Magazines are (almost) on sale! The SEC wins the draft again Big news for the ACC and AAC Big 12 still has a major issue QB class for 2022 is awesomely diverse Kansas has a new coach NCAA extends their silly President GLORY LASTS FOREVER

Playoff Expansion Options

April 28, 2021 10:00 - 54 minutes - 75.2 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. Playoff expansion is coming Why is it happening now? Why opinions have changed Geographic consideration Financial issues and compensation Scheduling hurdles? Plues/Minuses to each format Which formats are we campaigning for? Our new Dream Four-Team Playoff Game

2021 Mag Debates: Group of 5, Independents

April 21, 2021 10:00 - 57 minutes - 78.5 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football. The toughest debates of the 2021 magazine: Would Super Conferences work for the G5? One team above the rest in the G5 BYU and Liberty Is there a legit case for a G5 team in the playoff? Has the Sun Belt gained ground on the AAC? Wait, isn't the Mountain West getting better too? C-USA, MAC want to be included Coaches taking the jump to the P5? GLORY LASTS FOREVER

2021 Mag Debates: Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC

April 14, 2021 10:00 - 54 minutes - 74.8 MB

Steven Lassan and Braden Gall talk college football: Our biggest magazine debates continued Oklahoma vs. Iowa St in the Big 12? Texas, TCU or Ok-State? Who surprises in the Big 12? Three team race in the Pac-12 South Two team race in the Pac-12 North Bama vs. Georgia in the SEC Five of six teams battling for 3rd place GLORY LASTS FOREVER