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David and Lucas are joined by Matt Fanslow, the lead diagnostician and shop manager at Riverside Automotive in Red Wing, MN.

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They discuss whether ASE Certification is just a joke or necessary to the future of a vibrant and healthy independent automotive aftermarket.

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