Podcast outline: 1:40 – Introduction of Erin 3:33 – Erin’s behavioural journey 16:11 - Changes in the bird training world over the last ten to twenty years 31:00 – Visit www.torontozoo.org to find out more about Erin’s work including the shows at the zoo 34:06 - Ten steps to train a wild bird of prey 1:02 – Erin’s hopes for the animal training world in the next five to ten years