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Aligned Nutrition Podcast

82 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 year ago -

The Aligned Nutrition Podcast is a place where food doesn't get in the way of living. Your host, Erica Drewry is a certified eating disorder dietitian and intuitive eating counselor. We expand into your relationship with food no matter the complexity of your eating struggles.

This podcast is for anyone who would like to improve their relationship to food and their bodies.

Erica shares strategies, stories, concepts, and mini-trainings on her methods and what she has learned helping clients for the last 10 years. Learn how to feel connected to your life physically and socially and feel pleasure around food in ways you never imagined. Let's bridge nutrition science with the art of therapeutic skills so that you can become the expert of your own body.

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Episodes

Food Healing and the Winter Blues

February 19, 2023 20:29 - 27 minutes - 24.9 MB

Join me in this first solo episode of 2023 where I discuss food healing when you have the winter blues. This episode is for you if you've been feeling blah, in a rut, overcoming an illness, looking ahead to warmer days, stressed or run down.    In this episode, I talk about:    Staying inspired with eating when you have the winter blues  Staying positive in your journey to a better relationship to food Addressing crappy emotions and eating Refreshing your interest in food (managing...

Story Share - Healing from Perfectionism and Orthorexia with Kassandra Baker of Authenticity and Grace

December 15, 2022 15:50 - 40 minutes - 37.4 MB

Most people I work with, listeners of this podcast, and anyone I connect with on Instagram - can relate to a struggle with perfectionism and orthorexia.   The guest I have with me today is a board certified health, life, & mental health coach and professional speaker. Kassandra knows what it’s like to have a love/hate relationship with food and your body. It’s her own personal experience and recovery from two eating disorders that drive her passion to encourage women to find freedom. Kas...

Mindfulness and Food Healing with Merrit Elizabeth

December 15, 2022 14:16 - 28 minutes - 25.7 MB

When your relationship with food becomes stressful, we start policing ourselves around food. You think things like: “I shouldn’t have eaten that” “Wait now, so I can eat more later” “Be careful” and many more negative thoughts!    Where does mindfulness come in? The answer is: in many ways!    If you’re interested in getting a bit more in tune and peace around eating, listen to this guest episode where I discuss mindfulness with Merrit Elizabeth.   Merrit is a Certified Eating Di...

Ask Me Anything - Bloating, Constant Hunger, and Night Eating

September 28, 2022 17:29 - 33 minutes - 30.5 MB

In this ask me anything style podcast, I discuss questions directly from you.    Tune in and take a listen if you ever wonder:   How to deal with feeling hungry all the time Discovering some common reasons you might be bloated Eating at night - specifically how to stop eating at night   These are all topics that come up in my work with clients. If you’d like to talk to a registered dietitian about your specific situation, I’d be happy to help!  Inquire to work with me here: h...

What Food Does For The Body

August 31, 2022 02:29 - 20 minutes - 18.5 MB

Join me in this solo episode where I discuss what food does for the body physically. When you’re working on healing your relationship to food, food can feel stressful.    My hope in this episode is to help impart a neutrality about what food does for us. Food helps with the function of our body and helps support our bodies to live.   In this episode, I talk about:    Protein - What does your body do with protein?   Fats - Why is it important to consume fats? Carbohydrates - Wh...

Mindful Eating

August 02, 2022 09:00 - 25 minutes - 41.2 KB

Mindful eating can enhance the eating experience in ways that increase gratitude and cultivate positivity with eating. However, there are a lot of misconceptions and ways it’s discussed inaccurately and hinder your food healing journey.    Tune in and take a listen if you want to learn more about how to involve mindful eating into your day to day life. I share with you some strategies and talk about how mindful eating compares to intuitive eating.    My hope is that it can help take ...

Hunger Deep Dive

July 05, 2022 18:03 - 32 minutes - 29.6 MB

Join me in this solo episode where I discuss hunger in depth. A lot of the people I work with understand hunger and the role in healing your relationship with food. But there are a lot of nuances, barriers, and things to consider.   If you’d like to learn more about how to connect with hunger and learn strategies to get to know your body - this “hunger deep dive” episode is for you.    Does all of this feel like too much of a free fall? Working with a professional can help because yo...

Structure and Eating With Therapist Sarah Dundar

June 15, 2022 14:57 - 46 minutes - 42.4 MB

Every single person I work with, every single listener of this podcast, anyone I connect with on Instagram - struggle with structure and eating.   The guest I have with me today is a board-certified counselor who specializes in anxiety and eating disorders. As a trauma-informed therapist, Sarah believes that any experience that has stretched a person further than their current ability to cope deserves a safe space to process, heal, and build further resilience.   If you’d like to lea...

Why Intuitive Eating Might Not Be Working For You - And What To Do

May 10, 2022 09:00 - 24 minutes - 22.6 MB

Have you been working at learning about intuitive eating, practicing the principles, or even not trying because it feels like a inspirational “that’d be nice” but…   If you’ve felt overwhelmed, like a failure, given up, or maybe too scared to start eating intuitively - this episode is for you.    In this episode, I talk about:    3 common barriers to eating intuitively    What you might need to do instead   Want professional help to work on intuitive eating that might fee...

Dealing with Carbohydrates and Sweets in Food Healing - Story Share

May 03, 2022 14:14 - 30 minutes - 27.8 MB

Join me and former Realign Community member Annemarie as she shares overcoming feeling shameful about eating sweets and her body. Beyond sharing practical ways she approached this, you’re not going to want to miss her inspiring and relatable story.    If you find yourself stressed about carbohydrates and sweets in food healing, this episode is for you. As we discuss strategies and support for how to deal with carbohydrates and sweets in food healing.   In this episode, I specifically...

Reclaiming meal planning

March 29, 2022 21:48 - 19 minutes - 17.4 MB

Dieting, disordered eating, and eating disorders can complicate meal planning. Maybe you find the task of cooking and making meals overwhelming or maybe it’s rigid and inflexible. Or maybe you’re having trouble finding a good go-between the two.    If you find yourself wanting to reclaim meal planning - meal planning that provides some structure but with freedom and flexibility - this episode is for you.    In this episode, I specifically talk about:   Meal planning so that when ...

Ordinary Eating

March 15, 2022 09:00 - 16 minutes - 15.3 MB

Join me in this solo episode where I discuss a concept of “ordinary eating” and what role it serves in healing your relationship to food. This is not about a “right” or perfect way to eat but share insights on how to find your version of balance with food.    If you’ve struggled with being too rigid with eating and felt like you’ve gone completely the other direction, this episode is for you.    Want professional help to learn to eat in a way that feels aligned with what matters? Inq...

Triggers and Boundaries with Therapist Sarah Dundar

February 22, 2022 14:27 - 38 minutes - 34.9 MB

Every single person I work with, every single listener of this podcast, anyone I connect with on Instagram - struggle with triggers and boundaries.   The guest I have with me today is a board-certified counselor who specializes in anxiety and eating disorders. As a trauma-informed therapist, Sarah believes that any experience that has stretched a person further than their current ability to cope deserves a safe space to process, heal, and build further resilience.   If you’d like to ...

Willingness and Getting Beyond Good or Bad Eating

February 08, 2022 14:21 - 18 minutes - 17.1 MB

In this episode, I share a relatable and inspiring story of a client who has made tremendous strides in her recovery. Like her, maybe you have felt “stuck'' or exhausted in the process of healing your relationship with food.    Two common “stuck” points are:    -Labeling eating as good or bad    -Wanting to change but falling into frustrating patterns over and over.   This episode is for you if you want to feel less alone and gain some support and skill ideas on getting beyon...

Self Care Check In

January 11, 2022 20:26 - 13 minutes - 12.6 MB

In this self-care check-in style podcast, I cover dealing with:   When you’re in a funk Understand what’s really going on How to get back on track Learn how to repeat this over and over    Quick and to the point, this is a process I teach to all of my clients so they can understand themselves and food more deeply.     If you’d like to talk to a registered dietitian about your specific situation, become a client of mine. Inquire to work with me here: https://alignednutrition.c...

New Years Turnover

December 21, 2021 10:00 - 14 minutes - 13.6 MB

2021 is quickly coming to an end and we will soon be welcoming 2022! It can be a tricky time of year as it relates to healing your relationship with food and your body.    This is the last podcast episode of the 2021 year! We want you to feel supported and ready for next year.    I discuss: some ways you can end this year, ways to plan for next year, and how to set up some structure in your healing journey.  If you want professional help and support in the New Year inquire to work ...

5 Things You Might Not Know About Healing Your Relationship With Food

December 07, 2021 15:57 - 20 minutes - 18.6 MB

Something that is enormously helpful in healing your relationship with food is knowing what’s normal, what to expect, and some challenges (in wins!) that will come up along the way.    Check out this to the point episode, where I share 5 things you might not know about healing your relationship with food.    Expect to walk away with some lessons, myths demystified, and some confidence in knowing what’s next.    Want help with healing your relationship with food? Inquire to work w...

Leading into the Holidays

November 23, 2021 01:40 - 17 minutes - 15.7 MB

The holidays are fastly approaching! It’s exciting to be able to consider seeing family as well as friends and getting out into the world again post-covid. However, the holidays can be a difficult time for healing your relationship with food.    This episode is for you if you want some practical tips and support for issues like:    How to map out your day of eating around holiday meals and snacks   Traveling and eating without stressing   Dealing with family members and frien...

Dealing with Bad Body Image Days

November 09, 2021 17:09 - 16 minutes - 14.7 MB

If you find yourself dealing with bad body image days, this episode is for you. I discuss strategies and support for how to deal with bad body image days.   In this episode, I specifically talk about:   What is a bad body image day?  Why might you be having a bad body image day? What can you tell yourself on a bad body image day? How do you take care of yourself on a bad body image day? How can you have less bad body image days? Want professional help to overcome dealing wi...

How To Stop Eating When You're Bored or Alone

October 12, 2021 09:00 - 14 minutes - 13.4 MB

This episode is for you if you want strategies and support for how to stop eating when you're bored or alone.   Tune in and take a listen if you: find yourself eating differently when you are home alone or not around other people, eat when you’re not hungry, or use food as a distraction. It can be hard to manage our eating when we feel out of control despite our best intentions.    Eating when you're bored or alone can be extremely unsettling. It’s a common issue my client’s experien...

Cultivating Positive Body Image w/the Babesment

September 28, 2021 13:19 - 30 minutes - 27.8 MB

Every single person I work with, every single listener of this podcast, anyone I connect with on Instagram - struggle with how do you begin to like your body or at the very least stop hating it?    The guests I have with me today are both unique but center their work on anyone working through and overcoming struggles in their bodies.    If you’d like to learn about ways that you can cultivate a resilient body image, check out this episode with Stef and Jules of the Babesment Podcast....

Managing Weekends

September 14, 2021 09:00 - 15 minutes - 14.6 MB

This episode is for you if you want some practical tips and support for managing weekends.    It can be hard to manage our eating when our schedules change, when there is less structure, or for other reasons discussed in the episode.  Want professional help to overcome managing weekends in a way that feels aligned with what matters most to you in life? Inquire to work with me here: https://alignednutrition.com/contact/

Motivation For Exercise

August 31, 2021 09:00 - 17 minutes - 16.4 MB

Are you interested in improving your relationship with exercise? Maybe you avoid it now? Has it always been unpleasant? Or it still feels obsessive?   In this episode I discuss many of the reasons that we have a negative relationship with exercise so that you can develop a positive relationship with exercise and your body.  If you’d like to work with a registered dietitian specifically about your relationship with exercise and movement, become a client of mine by inquiring here https:/...

Ask Me Anything: Rapid weight gain and building a breakfast

August 18, 2021 12:03 - 13 minutes - 12.1 MB

In this ask me anything style podcast, I cover dealing with weight gain and how to build a solid breakfast. Quick and to the point, these are all topics that I work with my clients on.  If you’d like to talk to a registered dietitian about your specific situation, become a client of mine. Inquire to work with me here: https://alignednutrition.com/contact/

Emotional Eating Explored

August 10, 2021 20:16 - 16 minutes - 15.3 MB

The Aligned Nutrition Podcast is 1 year old!!! I’m celebrating our anniversary by doing a deep dive on our most downloaded episode of all time: Emotional Eating.    Tune in and take a listen if you know emotional eating for you is deeper than meets the eye. Learn how to spot emotional eating in yourself (and what it isn’t!) and some ideas on how to reframe it moving forward.  Want professional help to overcome emotional eating in a way that feels aligned with what matters most to you i...

Dieting, Disordered Eating, and Eating Disorders - What's The Difference?

August 03, 2021 09:00 - 37 minutes - 34.2 MB

This week’s podcast episode is from a podcast I did on the The Balanced Dietitian Podcast with dietitian Marie-Pier Pitre-D'Iorio. Enjoy the alternative perspective of hearing me interviewed and join us as we discuss:    - Eating concerns as a spectrum and why it matters. - What is the difference between disordered eating and an eating disorder? - What happens with our mental state when we diet? - When it comes to healing your relationship with food, what steps should you take?  ...

Vacation and Food Healing - 5 Tips

July 27, 2021 12:57 - 16 minutes - 15.4 MB

Summer is going strong! It’s exciting to be able to consider taking trips and getting out into the world again post-covid. However, vacationing and traveling can be a difficult time for healing your relationship with food.    This episode is for you if you want some practical tips and support for issues like: lack of structure with eating, triggering foods, people, and body image challenges. Want help on these issues so your next vacation is less stressful? Inquire to work with me here...

Inner Child Work and Food Healing with Alyssa Marie Wellness

July 21, 2021 17:30 - 19 minutes - 17.7 MB

Negative self talk getting you down? It’s no secret that healing our relationship with food can bring about deeper topics for healing. Since we begin eating as infants, we develop many biological and emotional experiences with food. Which is why we are talking with Alyssa (Lia) Mancao is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, therapist, writer, and a group practice owner based in Sherman Oaks, CA about inner child healing work.    Be sure to tune in if you feel like you know what you should ...

Healthy Eating Gone Too Far with Mimi Cole

July 13, 2021 14:36 - 29 minutes - 26.7 MB

Calling all “clean eaters”!    If you’ve ever felt like you can’t find a happy medium of eating healthy or not, feel obsessed with eating or not eating certain foods, worried about the contamination of foods, or your list of foods you feel comfortable eating could fit on a post-it note - this episode is for you.   Join me and my guest as we discuss: what is orthorexia, how to recognize signs of this condition, how it interferes with society and restrictive eating patterns, and finall...

Positive Vs Pathological Nutrition with Nourishing Women Podcast

July 06, 2021 09:00 - 34 minutes - 31.7 MB

This week’s podcast episode is from a podcast I did on the Nourishing Women Podcast with dietitian Victoria Myers. Enjoy the alternative perspective of hearing me interviewed and join us as we discuss:    - What it means to eat in line with your values - The difference between positive and pathological nutrition - What to do when you feel a pull to lose weight   Would you like to work with me on figuring out your version of positive nutrition? Inquire to become a private client, ...

High Functioning Anxiety and Eating with Nancy Jane Smith

June 29, 2021 09:00 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MB

Anyone else put themselves down and struggle with negative self-talk? If you are someone who wouldn’t dare say the same things to someone you say to yourself this episode is for you. Join me and my guest as we discuss as we very realistically discuss (there are no “just be positive messages to be had in this episode):    What does negative self-talk sound like and mean to you?  How does it impact your relationship with food and yourself?  What are some strategies to improve your nega...

Eating Intuitively Without Obsessing

June 22, 2021 09:00 - 15 minutes - 14.1 MB

This podcast is from a question from one of you - asking about how to get into the habit of eating intuitively. How to stay in the mindset of eating intuitively by checking in with yourself BUT also not thinking about food all of the time.    In this episode, I cover: some nuances of intuitive eating (IE), the difference between IE and mindful eating, and daily strategies to become more mindful and connected without overthinking it.    There is a lot of context to be brought into thi...

4 Types of Hunger

June 15, 2021 11:09 - 12 minutes - 11.2 MB

Did you know that we have 4 types of hunger? Maybe you don’t but are intrigued with all the different needs we have to meet. Maybe you wonder how to stop feeling hungry all the time? Or are you worried if you really let yourself eat, you’ll never stop?    This episode is for you if you want a deep dive on hunger, emotions, meal planning, and satisfaction with eating.  Hunger can be extremely personal. If you want professional help and support sorting it out, inquire to work with me her...

Overeating and Fullness In Food Healing

June 08, 2021 11:42 - 16 minutes - 14.7 MB

It’s not uncommon to reach a point in your journey of allowing all foods, honoring your hunger, and no longer restricting food intake BUT still eating past fullness.    Overeating feels uncomfortable, defeating, and frustrating. You can’t stop here.    You have to keep going so that you can really gain confidence and trust that YOU can also be free and at ease with all foods.    Re-calibrating our fullness is a necessary part of the process.    I’m talking about this on the p...

Intuitive Exercise w/Nyla Wiebe

June 02, 2021 13:57 - 32 minutes - 29.3 MB

If you are healing your relationship with food and find exercise doesn’t feel aligned, this episode is for you. It’s no secret that exercise and our relationship with it is often damaged through dieting, disordered eating, and eating disorders. What you may not realize is that it’s possible to draw analogies to intuitive eating and movement. In this episode we discuss what intuitive exercise means and how to leverage healing your relationship to food as a strength.    Our guest Nyla is a...

Disordered Eating and Gut Health w/Dr. Heather Finley

May 25, 2021 11:12 - 31 minutes - 28.8 MB

Feeling bloated? Constipated? It’s not uncommon for a stressful relationship with food to show up alongside digestive complaints. In this episode, I’m joined by a gut health expert and we tease apart correlations of disordered eating and gut health, myths about gut healing, and ways you can improve your gut health without cutting entire food groups.    Our guest Dr. Heather Finley is a Registered Dietitian with a Doctorate in Clinical Nutrition and a Certified Eating Disorder Dietitian. ...

Ask Me Anything - What Foods I Recommend To Eat, Not Fixating on Calories, Fullness Vs. Overeating

May 19, 2021 12:09 - 12 minutes - 11.3 MB

Ask Me Anything - this solo podcast episode is 3 questions directly from you!    I discuss: - What foods I recommend to clients - How to improve your diet and health without focusing on calories - How to differentiate between fullness and overeating   Let me know if you would like to see more of these type of episodes by sending me a DM on instagram @alignednutrition   Want to ask me questions about your situation and get advice specifically tailored to healing your relatio...

A Missing Piece About Weight w/ Marie-Pier the Balanced Dietitian

May 17, 2021 19:56 - 34 minutes - 31.3 MB

Discomfort with our weights both lead us into and drive our hang ups with food. It’s generally more of a societal issue than us as individuals. But what can we do and what can we learn about our bodies and weights to support us? Join me and my expert guest Marie-Pier as we dive deeper into weight science and share common misconceptions we are taught as a culture.    Marie-Pier is Registered Dietitian with a B.Sc. in Psychology and the founder of The Balanced Practice. She strives to prov...

Warm Weather and Post-Covid w/Dylan Murphy

May 15, 2021 00:42 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MB

Struggles with body image and food are often ongoing but can be heightened during certain times of year, periods in our journey, being around certain people, or any other form of external pressure to eat and look a certain way. This year is no different as we head into the warmer weather and some more social events being available to us following covid-19. Join me and my guest expert Dylan as we dive into some new ways to approach these situations and remain resilient in the face of challeng...

A Missing Piece About Weight w/ Marie-Pier the Balanced Dietitian

May 04, 2021 12:20 - 34 minutes - 31.3 MB

Discomfort with our weights both lead us into and drive our hang ups with food. It’s generally more of a societal issue than us as individuals. But what can we do and what can we learn about our bodies and weights to support us? Join me and my expert guest Marie-Pier as we dive deeper into weight science and share common misconceptions we are taught as a culture.    Marie-Pier is Registered Dietitian with a B.Sc. in Psychology and the founder of The Balanced Practice. She strives to prov...

Making Peace with Your Binge Food - Interview w/Modern Girl Podcast

April 27, 2021 14:18 - 59 minutes - 54.5 MB

This episode is from a conversation I had with Katelyn Parsons on the Modern Girl Podcast. You may remember her from a couple episodes back about body image. Sharing it here on the podcast because it’s full of insights and value. A few highlights of our conversation:    My personal body image story- growing up as a dancer and finding self compassion in a yoga class   My experience of discovering joyful and explorative movement rather than the constant “shoulds” of working out   H...

Story Share - Triumph, Trauma, Not Being Thin Enough To Recovery

April 20, 2021 09:00 - 33 minutes - 30.4 MB

Our special guest Julia has overcome so much in her life. She is poised to be a social worker helping others heal. After overcoming her own trauma, she was left with an eating disorder she never asked for. Never feeling thin enough or sick enough to deserve recovery, hear exactly how she broke through those beliefs and found the level of freedom with eating she couldn’t have imagined a year ago.    Content warning - mentions of sexual abuse, self-harm behaviors, and suicidal ideations  ...

Your Relationship with Exercise w/Sam Christy

April 13, 2021 09:00 - 28 minutes - 25.8 MB

Chances are your relationship to food and exercise have gotten tied up over the years. It’s important to take a look at how we can cultivate a positive relationship with exercise and our bodies. Just like food, I appreciate talking about science to empower us and inform how we view exercise. Join me and my guest expert, Sam Christy of Triple A Wellness, a registered dietitian and exercise physiologist. With over 10 years of experience in the fitness industry and advanced knowledge and resear...

Counting Macros to Intuitive Eating w/Ashton Barrett

March 30, 2021 12:25 - 31 minutes - 28.9 MB

Have you ever wondered to yourself how you transition from counting things like macros, calories, or following rigid plans and move into intuitive eating? Join me in this episode as I talk with Ashton Barrett - a former macros coach turned intuitive eating counselor. I know you’ll find her story relatable and helpful. I’m so grateful she found intuitive eating to heal both herself and others.    Follow Ashton on Instagram @thatashtonbarrett Learn more about her and her work on her webs...

Clothing And Healing Your Relationship With Food

March 23, 2021 09:00 - 10 minutes - 9.31 MB

Quick solo episode talking about a topic I encounter often with clients and inside Realign Community - dealing with clothing, body changes, and food relationship healing. It can be a challenge to navigate which is why I’m sharing some tips and implementable strategies.  Tune in and support yourself during this time of year and potentially stepping out into the world again after the pandemic. If you’d like support and more information on this topic, join Realign Community today at realignco...

Healthy Relationship With Food and Medical Conditions with Victoria Myers

March 16, 2021 12:25 - 27 minutes - 24.8 MB

A big misconception is that healing your relationship with food and managing a medical condition or nutrition therapy are incompatible. Join us as we discuss how they work together, modalities to consider, and how hormonal health and digestive healing aren’t limited to restrictive and rigid nutrition plans. This episode is full of nutrition knowledge and important insights, not one you’ll want to miss!    Our guest Victoria Myers is the dietitian and owner of the virtual private practice...

Nutrition Information As A Weapon Or Tool

March 09, 2021 10:00 - 15 minutes - 13.7 MB

As a nutrition professional, I’m aware of the weight of nutrition information. Weaponized, it leaves us with food rules, guilt with eating, and shame about our dietary choices. As a tool, it helps us feel full and energized, satisfied as we move about our lives, and able to have fun and connect with food.    In this episode, I discuss: my own journey with relearning information, how to discern nutrition research and some common “lenses” through which we hear nutrition information. It’s m...

Story Share - What It's like to Connect With Hunger And Fullness

March 02, 2021 10:00 - 22 minutes - 21 MB

Stories connect us, inspire us, and remind us of the human part of healing your relationship to food. I’m so grateful to Savannah, a former Realign Community member for sharing what it was like for her to connect with hunger and fullness. To actually build trust with eating. As always, I believe connecting with others in this work is an essential part of finding healing for yourself.     Hunger and fullness are concepts that have several steps that need to take place first and they are v...

Intuitive Eating and Self Love with/Victoria Evans

February 23, 2021 10:00 - 23 minutes - 21.5 MB

Join me and intuitive eating coach and self-love advocate Victoria Evans as we cover: what self love actually means (as a skeptic myself the answer surprised me), how it fits with learning to eat intuitively, and hear how she overcame her own insecurities.    Victoria has a wonderful story, passion for this work, and shares inspiration on her Instagram, her own podcast Weighing In On Happy, and her website.   Instagram: @victoriaevansofficial Podcast: Weighing In On Happy Website...

Things You Want Your Partner To Know

February 16, 2021 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.3 MB

In this episode, I’m joined by my fiance Danny who graciously interviewed me and asks all the questions you want your partner to know. We are so thankful for those who support us and try to understand what we’re going through. Share this episode with someone special in your life - maybe a partner, family member, or friend.