In this conversation, Ms. Sarah Miller, Mr. Wesley Schantz, and I conclude the fifth installment of the Harry Potter series: "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix". We specifically consider (1) The Department of Mysteries and what the mysteries of the magical world are (death, life, time, mind, love), and how they relate to our own primary world mysteries and questions; (2) we observe the epic battle between Voldemort and Dumbledore and make varied Luciferian (both Dantist and Miltonian) and Christological connections between the characters and the specific powers they manifest (division vs. unity); (3) we conclude by considering the nature of trauma, physical and spiritual (mental), and the role of the counselor/Dumbledore in guiding one back towards inner harmony by acceptance of difficult truths.

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