Welcome to the '5th Thing' with Amy & Kat!!! Do you ever talk down to yourself? This episode is for you! Thank you to licensed therapist, Kat Defatta, for joining us with her wisdom. You can find her on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta + @YouNeedTherapyPodcast.


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