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We all know intellectually that we can't predict the future and that any plans we make should be taken with a grain of salt given that uncertainty - that was true pre-pandemic and is all the more dramatic now. And yet deciding not to plan anything is impractical and often not helpful. So how does one find a healthy balance around making plans, especially in inherently uncertain times? Jen and Noah sure as heck don't know, but they have some thoughts on the subject, which they explore in this conversation.