ZBT #48: Pod Save Zero Blog Thirty with Tommy Vietor

I'm a huge Tommy Vietor guy. Tommy is the former spokesperson for the U.S. National Security Council and for President Obama from 2011-13. An incredibly smart and capable dude who isn't a stick in the mud. Rare find. This is one of my favorite interviews that we've done. We talk everything from the feeling of awe when you are in the Oval Office, North Koreas military ability, what mission-ready nuclear bombs actually look like, life as a young person who works in the White House, and the mistakes that the Obama administration made in regards to North Korea.