Stacie from "Stacie4Truth" (formally The Dissent)  joins me to talk about what libertarians mean by "The State," and how we can realistically move forward as people looking for individual liberty and economic freedom. When we stop talking in hypotheticals, we can possibly start a conversation on how to create something new.

Stacie is one of the sweetest, kindest humans I know, and I was so happy to finally be able to talk to her.

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