This conversation with Lawrence Kampf (more on Lawrence check out his webpage) was a rich, slow exploration. Rich in content and exploration. We talk about what the theatre and showmanship has to show us in our lives, creative containers and their potential for transformation, the negative space as in the unseen as well as that which is hidden. We also touch upon quite a few different ways of discovering attention as superpower of orientation. Lawrence has had a career as a theatre consultant for big shows like Cirque de Soleil and the Lion King. He is now a transformative coach and works with companies, leaders and leadership teams through the Nova Earth Institute (visit the page to find out more). Enjoy!