Kaa Faensen (LinkedIn or webpage) is a social therapist, facilitator, visual artist and coach who is also working with Fraendi. The conversation is a genuine, emergent exploration into what it is to be a human passionate about humans in a time between times. We venture into care, progress, adult or vertical development, ethics, aesthetics, beauty, embodiment, circular time and beings as well as whether we are fundamentally good or bad. It is one of the most wide ranging, curious and open explorations of the podcast to date for me (Amit). Host: Amit Paul