More than two years since our Black Summer, Australia is beginning to rethink how we fight bushfires in the air.

On this special episode of the Australian Aviation Podcast, host Adam Thorn speaks to Wayne Coulson, the CEO of one of the world’s leading aerial fighting companies.

He talks about why we should be fighting fires at night; why companies, not governments, should lead innovation; and how technology is already helping us predict how fires will spread.

Finally, the pair describes how seasons are becoming more intense and longer, and why we can’t count on other countries for help.