On the Jukebox podcast today we have Lee Shadle. Lee is a WordPress developer at WP Draft, and by his own admission is obsessed with building block based themes, plugins and websites. He’s been using WordPress for many years and as soon as the Gutenberg project was announced, he decided he was going to explore it and learn how it worked. We talk about what he has been building with blocks and why he thinks that they represent a bright future for WordPress. For Lee, it's about the extra capabilities which they bring for end users. We discuss the difficulties developers face learning new skills, and how Lee overcame this. Have a listen to Lee Shadle on the podcast.