Sean Witty and Ben Chicka speak with Dick Simon about tearing down walls that separate. We should say no to treating entire groups of people as "them" and actually get to know them.

Dick Simon is the founder of the kNOw Them Initiative

He also gave a TEDx Talk on "The most dangerous Four-letter word"

Learn more about Dick, his bike ride across the country, and see his photography on his website

Thank you to Rob Mathes for letting us use his song "Wake up Wide-Eyed" off the album Wheelbarrow for our intro and outro. Find more of his work and buy his music on his website.