This is a lovely conversation with the incredibly inspiring Jackie Scully. Although recorded over a year ago, I often think about snippets of things she said in this chat and her perspective on kindness feels more relevant than ever now.

Since recording this episode we've become much closer friends especially over the various lockdown, so it's really nice to listen back to one of our early conversations.

Jackie is an Executive Director at Think Publishing, winner of numerous awards such as the WACL Future Leaders, Women of the Future and she has also been listed as one of the 50 leading lights in Kindness & Leadership UK.

...but I think the thing that is most interesting to me, is that despite her vast experience as a writer, editor, strategist and marketeer, the conversation we shared was very much focused around overcoming challenges that life throws in your path and focusing on building bravery, self-belief and understanding the power of kindness.

Jackie has had a number of 'bumps in the road' as she calls them, from having to have her hip rebuilt to discovering she had breast cancer at the age of 32 and she discusses how this led her to reevaluate priorities and what success means to her.

I hope you enjoy this episode and and are as inspired by Jackie's amazing energy and drive as I am.