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When the Facts Change

182 episodes - English - Latest episode: 3 days ago - ★★★★★ - 6 ratings

Hosted by journalist Bernard Hickey, When the Facts Change is your essential weekly guide to the intersection of economics, business and politics in Aotearoa New Zealand. Presented by The Spinoff together with Kiwibank.

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The meaning of digital cash

April 25, 2024 17:00 - 28 minutes

The Reserve Bank wants to know how the public feels about a potential new type of digital cash. This digital currency would be exchangeable one-for-one with ‘old’ forms of bank-issued electronic money and ye olde paper cash and metal coins, but would not outright replace the physical stuff. RBNZ’s Head of Money and Cash Ian Woolford joins Bernard to discuss what’s different with this new digital cash, what problems it could solve and how it might open up a whole new front in bank competition....

The week the economic mood shifted

April 18, 2024 17:00 - 30 minutes

Kiwibank chief economist Jarrod Kerr joins Bernard to discuss and dissect the trajectory of inflation and interest rates, both here in Aotearoa and around the globe. Inflation is stickier than expected and interest rates are likely to stay higher for longer, but what does that mean for the kiwi dollar? How do US Fed chair Jerome Powell's recent comments affect us? And what is going on with the price of gold? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who is being hit hardest by inflation?

April 11, 2024 17:00 - 20 minutes

Kiwibank economist Sabrina Delgado joins Bernard to discuss the ways inflation affects various groups in Aotearoa. From homeowners and renters to beneficiaries and pensioners, they explore how inflation impacts everyone differently, and reveal who is being hit hardest by the current spike. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When monopolies clash

April 04, 2024 16:00 - 39 minutes

Auckland Airport wants to put up its landing charges to help pay for a multibillion dollar revamp of its terminals. Its biggest customer, Air NZ, is complaining that the airport is over-charging. So who is right? What is fair? And what happens when two effective monopolies butt heads? Bernard Hickey talks to Auckland Airport CEO Carrie Hurihanganui about the dispute, how the Commerce Commission factors in, and what the airport is planning to mitigate its long-term impact on the changing clima...

How do we get over the electrification tipping point?

March 28, 2024 16:00 - 39 minutes

The evidence is clear: it's good for our pockets and for the planet, so what's stopping families and businesses from going electric? How do we address the electrification knowledge gap and other barriers that stand in the way of adopting cleaner, more affordable energy both as individuals and organisations? Bernard Hickey talks to Rewiring Aotearoa CEO Mike Casey about their recent report 'Electric Homes', and how NZ is one of the first countries to reach the "electrification tipping point". ...

Should philanthropic giving be a moral obligation?

March 21, 2024 16:00 - 30 minutes

With the majority of Aotearoa struggling to meet basic needs, philanthropic funding is more important than ever. Cheryl Spain, executive director of The Gift Trust, joins Bernard Hickey to explain why philanthropic giving needs to become part of New Zealand culture, where funding should be directed within an organisation for maximum effectiveness and how to navigate the complications that come with financial giving.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A battle won in the War for Wellington

March 17, 2024 16:00 - 28 minutes

In a special edition of When The Facts Change, Bernard Hickey talks with The Spinoff’s Wellington editor Joel MacManus about the historic victory for YIMBYs in last week’s District Plan votes by the Wellington City Council. Who knew that town planning could be so important? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Navigating the rising tide of electricity demand

March 14, 2024 16:00 - 27 minutes

Transpower is taking a new approach to handling the massive increase in demand for electricity. Instead of building bigger power pylons (and a lot more of them), they want to reduce demand for electricity in the first place. Bernard Hickey is joined by Transpower’s John Clarke to discuss the state-owned power transmission company's recent RFP for non-transmission solutions; novel ideas such as buying demand reduction through virtual grids and batteries. And ground zero for their electrical in...

When caution reigns

March 07, 2024 16:00 - 31 minutes

Kiwibank chief executive Steve Jurkovich joins Bernard Hickey to discuss how businesses and consumers are feeling early in 2024, why an RBNZ rate hike last week would not have helped and how banks are thinking about the challenges of climate risk and cybersecurity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To hike, or not to hike? Unpacking the monetary policy statement with Adrian Orr

February 29, 2024 16:00 - 27 minutes

Te Pūtea Matua governor Adrian Orr joins Bernard to discuss the bank’s decision to hold the official cash rate at 5.5%, rather than hiking it further in an attempt to control rampant inflation (which is still roughly double where the RBNZ wants it). Listen in to hear the governor's reasoning behind the cash rate hold, his thoughts on New Zealand's record net migration and whether the government's decision to remove the bank's inflation/unemployment dual mandate earlier in the year has made an...

This is Kiwi: Sarah Hirini on growth and leadership

February 25, 2024 16:00 - 38 minutes

World-class athlete Sarah Hirini has spent nearly a decade as captain of the national women’s sevens team. Through the course of her career she’s clocked up Olympic gold and silver medals, a couple of Rugby World Cup wins and in 2019 was made a member of the New Zealand Order of Merit. She was also winner of the NZ Sports Leadership award at last year’s Halberg Awards. There’s no doubt Sarah is truly inspirational, but what sets her apart is her leadership style – nuanced, caring, and focused...

The real reason our government won't borrow to fix our infrastructure issues

February 22, 2024 16:00 - 38 minutes

Christopher Luxon has described Aotearoa’s government finances as fragile, but the most qualified folks in financial markets don’t see it that way. Bernard Hickey talks to S&P Global’s government ratings director Anthony Walker about just how fragile our government and local council finances actually are. According to Anthony, NZ’s AAA rating means international investors view NZ as a strong borrower with $120 billion worth of borrowing headroom to solve its infrastructure deficits. Yet the g...

This is Kiwi: Nico Porteous on the process of performance

February 18, 2024 16:00 - 51 minutes

At just 22 years old, Nico Porteous is one of New Zealand's most accomplished athletes. He first made his mark on Aotearoa sporting history at 16 when he became our youngest Olympic medalist, claiming bronze in the men's freeski halfpipe. In 2022 he soared even higher in Beijing, clinching an Olympic gold to add to his two X Games gold medals alongside being made a member of the New Zealand Order of Merit. Nico's accolades speak volumes, but beyond the medals there’s a depth of character and ...

How super is NZ Super?

February 15, 2024 16:00 - 30 minutes

After releasing a paper earlier this week outlining her policy recommendations for the government, retirement commissioner Jane Wrightson joins Bernard Hickey to discuss the complex challenge of superannuation in Aotearoa. Why should the age of eligibility stay at 65? Which demographics would be adversely affected by a decision to raise it? And is it a problem that approximately 50,000 pensioners collect NZ Super while earning over $100,000 a year? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit mega...

This is Kiwi: Louis Davis on modern fatherhood

February 11, 2024 16:00 - 43 minutes

In sharing daily dad life with his social media following of nearly two million, Louis Davis challenges fatherhood stereotypes by being meaningfully present for his family. Join Louis as he sits down with Jane Yee and, through genuine humour and heartfelt anecdotes, offers an alternative narrative about the role and responsibilities of fathers. As he shares his wisdom on the beauty of whānau, the joys of parenthood and the importance of integrity, Louis' story serves as a poignant reminder of...

We all need to cut 75% of our personal carbon emissions. But how?

February 08, 2024 16:00 - 26 minutes

In order to limit global warming to 1.5ºC, and avoid the catastrophic effects brought on by further warming, every person on the planet must limit their personal carbon dioxide emissions to just two tonnes per year. The current annual emissions average for someone living in New Zealand? Over eight. Writer, consultant and climate justice campaigner Emily Mabin Sutton joins Bernard Hickey to help figure out how we can get our own carbon emissions under control. Learn more about your ad choices....

This is Kiwi: Kendall Flutey on focusing your ambition

February 04, 2024 16:00 - 41 minutes

Kendall Flutey is on a mission to help create a better future for kids all over the world. As the founder of financial literacy software Banqer, Kendall is focusing her ambition for good in a bid to empower the next generation towards a future of financial wellbeing. Combining unbridled passion, a generous spirit and tenacious business acumen, Kendall is a force to be reckoned with in the entrepreneurial space. She joins Jane Yee to discuss what it means to be intentional in all areas of life...

A year on: decoding the cost of major weather events

February 01, 2024 16:00 - 25 minutes

How do you measure the cost of the Auckland Anniversary floods and Cyclone Gabrielle? A year on from these catastrophic weather events, NZIER economist Roshen Kulwant joins Bernard Hickey to discuss which costs we're measuring, what we’ve learnt and what still needs to be done. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Kiwi: Te Aorere Pēwhairangi on finding inspiration

January 28, 2024 16:00 - 41 minutes

Te Aorere Pēwhairangi is a dynamic content creator dedicated to making te reo and te ao Māori accessible. After a promising rugby league career was cut short by injury, Te Aorere moved into translation work which led to TV presenting roles and a dedicated following on social media where he connects with hundreds of thousands. Te Aorere talks to Jane about his commitment to his people, including his campaign ‘Waewae the 35’ that raised $115,000 for Cyclone Gabrielle-stricken communities. Recen...

The latest acronym in the Reserve Bank's tool kit

January 25, 2024 16:00 - 30 minutes

Earlier this week the Reserve Bank of New Zealand proposed a new debt-to-income (DTI) ratio limit. Along with the 11-year-old loan-to-value ratio (LVR) limit, the RBNZ hopes these lending restrictions will help "limit the build-up of systemic financial risk" in our housing market. Bernard Hickey talks to Helen O’Sullivan, Valocity Global's CEO of Real Estate, to dig into the proposed policy, and whether LVRs have actually made the financial system safer over the last decade. Learn more about ...

This is Kiwi: Jazz Thornton on resilience through adversity

January 21, 2024 16:00 - 38 minutes

What happens when you take on your trauma with the whole world watching? Jazz Thornton joins Jane Yee for a raw and entertaining kōrero between friends that exposes the reality of turning your pain into purpose in a very public way. The young mental health advocate and social media star speaks openly about the highs and lows of sharing her life through a lens and reveals what motivates her to show up for others every day, even as she continues to work through her own intense historic trauma. ...

What's behind New Zealand's water woes?

January 18, 2024 16:00 - 33 minutes

Aotearoa New Zealand is a rich and functional country, but it can’t seem to operate a safe and well-maintained water system. CEO of Water NZ Gillian Blythe tells Bernard Hickey exactly why that is, and what's needed to get our water infrastructure back on track. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Summer minipod 3: the grim reality for low-lying suburbs

January 11, 2024 16:00 - 11 minutes

In the final of three summer mini episodes, Bernard Hickey a key moment from 2023 when the political economy in Aotearoa shifted on its axis in real time. Last up is the day the nation’s biggest insurer said Petone and many other low-lying suburbs around the motu would not be insurable in 30-50 years due to climate change. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Summer minipod 2: the closing window of hope for our climate

January 04, 2024 11:00 - 9 minutes

In the second of three summer mini episodes, Bernard Hickey a key moment from 2023 when the political economy in Aotearoa shifted on its axis in real time. Second up is the day the Climate Commission chair, Rod Carr, told the deniers and delayers of climate change action to get out of the way for the rest of us to take advantage of the opportunities for cheaper, healthier and safer lives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Summer minipod 1: “end of story”

December 28, 2023 16:00 - 9 minutes

In the first of three summer mini episodes, Bernard Hickey a key moment from 2023 when the political economy in Aotearoa shifted on its axis in real time. First up is the day that Chris Hipkins declared the ‘end of story’ for a wealth or capital gains tax in New Zealand for at least the next decade. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Monopod: Reacting to Nicola Willis' mini-budget

December 20, 2023 16:00 - 11 minutes

National promised their first budget would expose 'fiscal vandalism' by the previous Labour government. Now that Bernard Hickey has had a chance to rifle through the numbers, he finds minimum substance to the claims. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Spinoff presents SUPERPOD 2023

December 18, 2023 16:00 - 42 minutes

SUPERPOD is back! Hosted by Gone By Lunchtime's Toby Manhire and featuring Jane Yee and Alex Casey from The Real Pod, Duncan Greive from The Fold, Gone By Lunchtime's Annabelle Lee-Mather, Simon Pound from Business Is Boring, Bernard Hickey from When The Facts Change and The Spinoff Podcast Network's Te Aihe Butler and Samuel Robinson, SUPERPOD 2023 is the crossover to end all crossovers. From intense discussion of government policy to figuring out what the heck a skibidi toilet is, we celebr...

The economic impact of record-high migration

December 14, 2023 16:00 - 25 minutes

2023 has seen record-high net migration after a large dip during the height of Covid. Bernard Hickey talks with Kiwibank economist Mary-Jo Vergara about the economic effects of high migration on rents, inflation, interest rates and house prices. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The real cost of the smoking excise tax

December 07, 2023 16:00 - 27 minutes

To replace $700 million a year of revenues lost from a foreign buyers tax, the new coalition government is dumping the previous government's smoke free 2025 goal. This relaxing of policies will keep more people smoking for longer, costing thousands of lives per year and at least $10 billion is extra health costs and lost working hours. Bernard Hickey speaks with University of Otago public health researcher Andrew Waa about his analysis of the changes to smoke free, and finds out the true cost...

When can we expect mortgage rates to drop?

November 30, 2023 16:00 - 21 minutes

The Reserve Bank surprised everyone this week by warning it may have to raise interest rates again to force inflation down, effectively eliminating the prospect of major mortgage rate cuts over the coming summer. Kiwibank Chief Economist Jarrod Kerr joins Bernard Hickey to dig in to the RBNZ’s unexpected hawkish outlook heading into 2024. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The budget benefits of going electric

November 23, 2023 16:00 - 29 minutes

Could a South Island cherry farm set the standard for an electric future? Mike Casey from Rewiring Aotearoa joins Bernard Hickey to discuss what it took to make the switch from running his cherry farm on fossil fuels to renewable electricity. He also explains the ways in which going electric will save our homes, farms and small businesses thousands each year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The state of the economy in Aotearoa with Steve Jurkovich

November 16, 2023 16:00 - 46 minutes

With cost of living forefront on people's minds, what are banks doing to alleviate pressure on the consumer? Bernard Hickey sits down with Kiwibank chief executive Steve Jurkovich to discuss how the economy is travelling, the pressures consumers are dealing with, and the regulatory adjustments he hopes to see in 2024. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new solution to the first-home deposit problem?

November 09, 2023 16:00 - 41 minutes

New fintech startup Aera says first-home buyers would need to save for an infinite number of years to secure a house deposit. Founder Derek Handley joins Bernard Hickey to discuss Aera's plan to help first-home buyers to get onto the property ladder, with a new take on the bank of mum and dad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How leaders can learn from their mistakes

November 02, 2023 16:00 - 29 minutes

After leaving the CEO position at Z Energy, Mike Bennetts became an executive coach and has just published his own book: Being Extraordinary by confronting your ordinary.  Mike talks to Bernard Hickey about how leadership is different from management, and how leaders can learn from their mistakes. You can find Mike's book at: https://www.taumataadvisory.com/beingextraordinary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How to defend yourself from tech-savvy scammers

October 26, 2023 16:00 - 27 minutes

In April and June of 2023, online scammers stole $4.2 million from New Zealanders. Bernard Hickey speaks to Kiwibank senior external fraud investigator Sareta Fraser about how bank customers and banks are in an arms race against increasingly ingenious and awful scammers. She lays out the tricks and schemes used by the scammers and offers tips and techniques that customers can use to protect themselves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The wind power revolution energising Aotearoa

October 19, 2023 16:00 - 29 minutes

What makes New Zealand one of the most geographically perfect places to harness the power of Tāwhirimātea? This week, Bernard Hickey talks with Giacomo Caleffi from Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners about how the NZ Super Fund could bolster their plan to build a massive offshore wind farm off the coast of South Taranaki. They discuss why offshore wind is so necessary in the transition to 100% renewable energy, and how renewable energy differs from renewable power. Learn more about your ad ch...

Powering down to keep your savings up

October 12, 2023 16:00 - 36 minutes

Are we using our energy networks as efficiently as possible? Bernard Hickey interviews Octopus Energy’s UK-based head of systems change, Marcia Poletti, about innovative ways power companies can adapt their current system to better support the energy grid. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Using LinkedIn to build your business better

October 05, 2023 16:00 - 34 minutes

All around the globe, business owners are struggling to launch, manage, and sustain their companies' increasingly necessary online presence in an impactful way. Bernard Hickey speaks to the marketing director at Smarketing Lab, Assia Salikhova, for some free consulting on how to build his podcasting empire in the social space. She explains the simple ways you can let nosy folks know that you and your business are alive and thriving. . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adch...

The post-pandemic office experience

September 28, 2023 16:00 - 46 minutes

It turns out many offices are empty now, particularly on Mondays and Fridays, and workers aren’t there to sit at their open-plan desks. They’re there to join Zoom or Teams calls in quiet spaces, or to meet each other in conference rooms. Bernard Hickey talks to XYSense co-founder and CEO Alex Birch about how building managers, planners and bean counters can understand the best way to run an office of the future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Melbourne City's carbon neutral apartment building

September 21, 2023 17:00 - 40 minutes

Liam Wallis, is the founder of HIP V HYPE, a design agency in Melbourne that helped design, fund and build the first Nightingale project apartments in Melbourne’s Brunswick. These apartments are designed from the start to be carbon neutral, healthier, and cheaper places to heat. He talks to Bernard Hickey about the number of times the air changes every hour in a normal house (20), and how often the air changes in a home like the ones built in the Nightingale projects. Liam is in Auckland, Chr...

Is an economic summer on the horizon?

September 14, 2023 17:00 - 24 minutes

Kiwibank chief economist Jarrod Kerr tells Bernard Hickey why there are early signs of a rebound in confidence and hope for the summer to come, and into next year, despite the interest rate hikes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris Hipkins on leading a conservative left-wing government

September 07, 2023 17:00 - 25 minutes

The prime minister seems to be moving forward with his plan to ignore the infrastructure deficit by ruling out wealth and capital gains taxes. He joins Bernard Hickey to defend his stance as a steady, status quo government and tries to win the vote of Bernard in the process. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Reconnecting the regions with better public transit

August 31, 2023 17:00 - 32 minutes

Bernard Hickey discusses the need for much better bus and train connections within and between our smaller provincial cities with public transport advocate and award-winning singer-songwriter Anthonie Tonnon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Shining a light on our solar industry

August 24, 2023 17:00 - 34 minutes

Why is Aotearoa's solar panel industry lagging so far behind the rest of the world? SolarZero CEO Matt Ward joins Bernard Hickey to talk about how using batteries to complement rooftop solar is changing the game and how he believes that the number of solar panels in Aotearoa are about to go through the roof. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The company transitioning businesses to a low carbon economy

August 17, 2023 17:00 - 34 minutes

Bernard Hickey talks with CoGo founder Ben Gleisner about the potential to use bank data on spending to help businesses and consumers monitor and tweak their climate emissions. Gleisner talks about Aotearoa’s rocky and long pathway to open banking and the options for a type of ‘nudge’ economy towards decarbonisation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How to construct an affordable and eco-friendly home

August 10, 2023 17:00 - 24 minutes

Are we building our houses as smart as we possibly can? GEOBIND co-founder Alice Hosted says that Aotearoa could help solve its housing cost and carbon problems by using hempcrete walls. They discuss the pros to using hemp in building construction, and the current logistical frameworks that restrict its use in New Zealand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The renewable energy source beneath our feet

August 03, 2023 17:00 - 33 minutes

Bernard Hickey drills down into the future of geothermal electricity production in this week’s interview with Isabelle Chambefort from GNS Science. She’s excited about the potential for deep drilling to uncover ‘supercritical’ heat that supercharges geothermal power output, helping solve the dry year problem bedevilling or hydro dominated power system. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Kiwi: Kiri Nathan on building community through creativity

July 30, 2023 17:00 - 37 minutes

Kiri Nathan isn’t just a leading figure in the Aotearoa fashion industry, she’s a true inspiration – a remarkable artist and guiding mentor to young indigenous designers. Kiri stands apart from her peers in the world of fashion, with her commitment to incorporating her whakapapa in her creations by using Māori patterns, textiles and weaving techniques. In this kōrero we discover what motivates Kiri and the obstacles she’s conquered to achieve respect and success in this notoriously tough indu...

What is the future of our banking system?

July 27, 2023 17:00 - 24 minutes

As the world globalises, open banking is becoming an increasingly attractive prospect to customers, so why aren't our banks onboard yet? Bernard Hickey talks with Josh Daniell at FinTech firm Akahu about what’s being done in Aotearoa to accelerate the move to open banking, something already well advanced in Europe, the UK, and Australia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Kiwi: Robbie Van Dam on finding innovation everywhere

July 23, 2023 17:00 - 29 minutes

Meet Robbie van Dam, a visionary entrepreneur and finalist for the Kiwibank New Zealander of the Year Spark Innovator Award for 2023. Through his company GoodNature, Robbie’s passion and commitment has helped revolutionise the pest control industry thanks to a groundbreaking trap that humanely kills pests with remarkable efficiency. With over 22 million pests killed worldwide and huge monetary savings in conservation efforts, Robbie’s inspiring story of challenging the status quo, making mean...