#5 The New York Public Library’s Tony Ageh: Pioneering Change in the Face of Resistance

“I always felt this strange sense of otherness as a child, just because of the colour of my skin. I am sure there are many people who have versions of that, whether you have afflictions that others think disable you, that don't in any way disable you. I knew full well, because of the environment I grew up in, the pigmentation of my skin made literally no difference to my ability to do anything. So I've always looked at the world from that perspective, that this must apply to everyone. Everybody must have something inside them that others judge will reduce their capacity for anything - whether it's for learning, love, creative output or self-actualization. It is completely nonsensical. Of all the things as a child that I carry with me. It's completely determined the path I've taken through life.”

My guest this week is the New York Public Library’s Chief Digital Officer, Tony Ageh. He is the visionary behind innovations such as The Guide at The Guardian and Wired UK, and also one of the founding fathers of BBC iPlayer – the BBC’s pioneering streaming and catch-up service. An early disrupter and proponent of change in the 80s and 90s, Tony began his career in publishing, and even helped launch Richard Branson’s London listings magazine, Event. Tony’s reputation for leading change earned him an invitation to join The Guardian Media Group, and by the mid-1990s, he was Head of Product Development. 

From The Guardian he re-joined Branson to work on the launch of virgin.net, before spending 12 years at the BBC, where he rose to the much-coveted positions of Controller of Internet and Controller of BBC Archive Development. In 2016, Tony ventured across the pond to become Chief Digital Officer of the NYPL, where he is currently unleashing big ideas to digitally transform the institution. Tony was recognised for his work at the BBC when awarded an OBE for his services to digital media in 2015\. On future-proofing ideas, especially through large organisations at the BBC, Tony has said: “I am good at making ideas survive that process, which means they survive the outside world.”  

Tony is one fascinating man, with a tale or two (or twenty!) to tell. Change has been such a huge part of Tony’s career and throughout his career he has sat on the cusp of it, in the best possible way. Tony told me all about how he has navigated and executed change throughout his career, often in the face of great resistance. The story of BBC iPlayer is a case in point and a story you simply have to hear. I’m not going to give any spoilers, but it started with a visit to the pub and well over 84 meetings. We also touched upon his big decision to leave the BBC and venture to a new city and new job at the New York Public Library. 

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