For this conversation, I am joined once again by Jon Perry. 

Together we talk about Jon's story of being raised within and then leaving Mormonism. I have so much time and respect for Jon, and it was an honour to have him on the show to talk this through.


Since this conversation, I have spoken to Crystal Perry (Jon's cousin) and that conversation will drop in due course :)

You can find/follow Jon:


YouTube Stated Casually

YouTube Stated Clearly


Resources mentioned in this conversation:

Evolution and Theistic Misunderstandings with Jon Perry


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