Joshua Holland kicks off this week's show with a solemn pledge to not start covering the 2024 election until at least Thanksgiving.

Then we are joined by Karoli Kuns, the managing editor of Crooks and Liars, to give us a recap of Joe Biden's State of the Union Speech, which she found to be a master class in dealing with an often unruly audience.

And then New York Magazine's Eric Levitz tells us why Republicans are so eager to avoid laying out any concrete demands as they take the full faith and credit of the United States hostage. 

Playlist

COIN: "Chapstick"Rolling Stone: "The Spider And The Fly"Dave Matthews Band: "Madman's Eyes"