It's our 200th episode! Welcome special guest Charlie Jane Anders to discuss her new book Dreams Bigger Than Heartbreak, how High School Musical: The Musical: The Series is like The Human Centipede 2 (yes, you read that right), pronouns, and pop culture.


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Tina left home to claim her destiny as the rebirth of the galaxy's greatest hero --- but she found something better: a chosen family. This YA series features epic battles, even more epic romance, and always getting people's pronouns right.


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Charlie Jane Anders is the author of Victories Greater Than Death, the first book in a new young-adult trilogy, with the sequel, Dreams Bigger Than Heartbreak, coming April 2022. She's also the author of the short story collection Even Greater Mistakes, and Never Say You Can't Survive (August 2021), a book about how to use creative writing to get through hard times. Her other books include The City in the Middle of the Night and All the Birds in the Sky. She's won the Hugo, Nebula, Sturgeon, Lambda Literary, Crawford and Locus Awards. Her fiction and journalism have appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, Slate, McSweeney's, Mother Jones, the Boston Review, Tor.com, Tin House, Teen Vogue, Conjunctions, Wired Magazine, and other places. Her TED Talk, "Go Ahead, Dream About the Future" got 700,000 views in its first week. With Annalee Newitz, she co-hosts the podcast Our Opinions Are Correct.


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