Okay we're gonna level with you: we recorded this episode with our pals from Talking to Ghosts and The Blood of Others like three weeks ago and don't remember a god damn thing about it. We might have talked about podcast stuff, but also about Michael and Wes have feelings about gallery shows and other alternate ways to present their music? Yes, that sounds right. Also, some talk re: the Severed Heads. It was pretty good probably, why not listen to it now?