What happens to the news business when everything around us is connected and sending data to the cloud? We managed to find someone straddling both the news and the new Internet of Things to give us a super smart, fun tour of that landscape: Stuart Waite, ex-News Corp executive and current startup investor/consultant and digital transformation expert. He had a conversation at the Walkleys offices in Sydney recently with Michael Janda, senior digital business reporter at the Australian Broadcasting Corp and a Walkley Trustee.

WalkleyTalks is the podcast of The Walkley Foundation, which promotes and encourages Australian journalism. It's produced by Kate Golden at the 2SER studios in Sydney, Australia, and this episode was edited by Ninah Kopel. Music is "Puzzle Pieces" by Lee Rosevere.

Photo: A European honey bee fitted with an electronic tag the size of a piece of glitter. Part of photographer Marc McCormack's winning entry for the 2016 Nikon-Walkley Community/Regional Photography Prize: see the rest at walkleys.com/2016photofinalists.