Episode 37 is a little different from the usual format. During Sukkot this year, at Safe Haven Farm in Orosi, CA, I was introduced to two delightful couples who sat down to share with me as a group. So we’ll hear from retired NBA player Jamal Sampson and his talented wife Angela, along with former mega-church youth leader Austin Sanford and his beautiful bride Susy. Just a heads up though, we recorded this interview in the middle of the camp with kids and families everywhere and a worship session in the background.


We talk about Angela’s initial resistance to change, how digging into the Scriptures together strengthened Angela and Jamal’s courtship, why Jamal really retired from the NBA, and how the Minister of Defense Reggie White sparked a life change of epic proportions. Susy Sanford talks about how her deep love for God led her to her marriage to Austin and how her skepticism of this faith walk keeps her searching the Scriptures. Then Austin regales us with stories of how he got into ministry to prove he was a better Christian than his father, how once he found the truth he banked EVERYTHING on his faith in Yahweh, and how actually doing what the Bible teaches has changed their lives. 


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