In a compassionate conversation, Cuban American artist Edel Rodriguez, Kurdish-Iranian journalist Behrouz Boochani, and Indonesian artist Agus Nur Amal (PM Toh) speak of their personal experience as refugees. Appearing in our short clip, Edel Rodriguez talks about hearing Donald Trump in 2015, as a candidate for president, echoing Castro’s talking points, and how he felt the need to sound the alarm. 

Watch these urgent and hopeful stories of survival, transformation, and triumph at ubudwritersfestival.com/media, or click the link in our bio to listen to the session on the podcast platforms Spotify and Simplecast. 

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