On Wednesday episodes, I share leadership beliefs and unlabel terminology. I invite guests to share their expertise about small or big acts of leadership.


In Episode 23, Simma Lieberman, my expert on DE&I, helps me decipher Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.


00:00 Prologue: Discovered through Social Media


I discovered Simma through her blogs on Multibriefs, which lead me to her podcast about diversity. Simma, a.k.a. The Inclusionist, is an award-winning professional who consults, coaches, and offers powerful keynotes. If you plan to meet 50 people this year, ensure that Simma is one of them.


01:28 Part 1: Debunking the Need for Similar People


What makes diversity in organizations diverse? Simma answers this question.


07:24 Part 2: You Need More than Equal Access


Equality doesn’t mean that there is equity. Both terms are worth unlabeling, and Simma does just that!


13:44 Part 3: Accessing Their Brilliance


If you have diversity, do you have inclusion? What does it mean to have an inclusive culture and organization? Simma helps me demystify inclusion by answering these questions.


21:50 Part 4: Take Diversity to Lunch


Whether a manager or a team member, Simma offers practical ways for us to enable teams and organizations to diversify and become more inclusive.


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Episode links


Simma’s LinkedIn Profile


Simma’s Bio


The Inclusionist (website)


Simma’s Twitter


Everyday Conversations on Race for Everyday People (podcast)


Example blogs by Simma


   How story-sharing creates connections and empathy in organizations


   Unconscious bias gone wrong


About Roosevelt Thomas, Jr. in Diversity Officer Magazine


Examples of Diversity Definitions PDF (includes Thomas’ definition)


The Story of the Elephant and the Giraffe (a blog about Roosevelt Thomas’ fable)




Background Music


You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.


00:00 Theme music: Inspiring Uplifting Corporate by mixer_drummer


01:11 Marching Band Fun by pinkzebra


07:05 Happy swing by Praded


13:26 Inspiring Emotional Cinematic Piano and Strings by pinkzebra


21:33 A New Door Opens by pinkzebra


24:29 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia




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