Propaganda is an emcee, poet and activist, but he’s also one of those voices that can’t be put in a box. He challenges the status quo and is an outspoken activist for the Church to address important issues. In this illuminating conversation, Prop joins Cameron to talk about growing up in racially segregated Los Angeles, cultural identity—including his first trip to Africa that he just took—and yes, how he finds himself at a lot of white church conferences and what he thinks about that. It’s a transparent look into the story and perspective of someone who’s sitting at the intersection of a lot of things, and someone we should all be listening to.