Episode 12: Johnnyswim's Abner Ramirez

Singer and songwriter Abner Ramirez is one-half of the popular R&B/folk duo Johnnyswim. With a highly anticipated new album releasing April 19th, Abner joins Cameron for a wide-ranging conversation. You’ll of course hear about the new project, of course, but also his faith journey, how he pursued Amanda (it’s a great story), what Chip and Jo are like in real life, and yes, what it’s like being friends with Steph Curry. And guys, pay attention—at one point Abner even gives some really good relationship advice.