Undermine
202 episodes - English - Latest episode: 26 days ago - ★★★★★ - 1.2K ratingsUndermine is the definitive Phish podcast. New season coming soon, building on what we've done—seasons on Phish’s genesis in the 1980s, the Phish community, the Baker's Dozen, and Fall '97. Through deep-dives into the music, shows and songs; interviews with people who were there; and discussion about Phish's lasting impact. Undermine is presented by Osiris Media.
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Under the Scales: PhanArt (Re-Release)
June 27, 2024 09:00 - 41 minutesPhan Art Pete (Mason) created a vibrant art enterprise which has grown beyond the Phish community where it started. And that's just ONE thing he's doing…Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Phish Companion (Re-Release)
June 26, 2024 09:00 - 43 minutesI speak with Phillip Zerbo, co-editor for the incredible Phish Companion Volume 3. Can 30 years fit into 900 pages? Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: RELIX (Re-Release)
June 25, 2024 09:00 - 47 minutesMike Greenhaus gives us an amazing perspective on how Relix magazine has been involved in and crucial to the jam scene since its inception. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Runaway Gin (Re-Release)
June 24, 2024 09:00 - 50 minutesRJ and I talk to Andy Greenberg, guitarist for Phish cover-band Runaway Gin. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Trey Guitars 2 (Re-Release)
June 20, 2024 09:00 - 47 minutesTrey Anastasio explains the magic of Paul Languedoc's guitars to me and Dan Kanter. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Trey Guitars 1 (Re-Release)
June 19, 2024 09:00 - 58 minutesTrey Anastasio shares years of guitar insights with me and Dan Kanter. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Higher Thymes (Re-Release)
June 18, 2024 09:00 - 50 minutesJen Bernstein stops by to educate me about WEED. Yes, she does. Originally released in 2017. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Dude of Life (Re-Release)
June 17, 2024 09:00 - 1 hourSteve Pollak, also known as THE DUDE OF LIFE, talks to me about the early days with Trey in Taft and brings us up to the present musically. Originally released in 2016. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Phantasy Tour (Re-Release)
June 13, 2024 09:00 - 54 minutesPaul Glace, founder of PhantasyTour.com, is featured. We discuss the site's origins and how it grew to the incredible Phish fan destination it is today. Originally released in 2016. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Timer (Re-Release)
June 12, 2024 09:00 - 57 minutesI interview David Steinberg, long-time Phish fan and the band's unofficial statistician. He's an author and extreme long-distance touring expert. He also times shows...and has the scars to prove it. Originally released in 2016. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: Tapers (Re-Release)
June 11, 2024 09:00 - 53 minutesCo-hosts RJ and Jonathan and I take a DEEP DIVE into Tapers. Tapers are a huge part of Phish's history...but what are they? Who are they? Let's find out. Take a deep breath and jump in with us. Originally released in 2016. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium
Under the Scales: Riding the Rail (Re-Release)
June 07, 2024 09:00 - 41 minutesDerek Gregory joins me in the studio to discuss his extensive experience with Phish...he likes it up close to the band. Real close. I try to figure out the hows and whys of "riding the rail" as it's called. Originally released in 2016. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
Under the Scales: The Songwriting Weekend (Re-Release)
June 06, 2024 09:00 - 34 minutesIn 1997, Trey and I escaped for long weekends to write a lot of songs which eventually appeared on Phish albums and became part of Phish's live repertoire. This is the story of one of those weekends, and how it got off to a *horrifying* start. Trey listened to this and said "it's like the secret backstory for the song Twist" -- and it really is. Originally released in 2016. Please support our work by visiting OsirisPod.com/Premium.
An Announcement
June 05, 2024 09:00 - 58 secondsWe're happy to tell you that starting this week, we'll be re-releasing Under the Scales episodes, for you, for free! And in exchange, we'd like to ask you to support us for $5/month at OsirisPod.com/Premium. And stay tuned for all the great Under the Scales episodes, again.
Undermine Special Report: New Summer 2023 Songs
August 28, 2023 09:00 - 42 minutesToday we bring you a special report, looking at the new songs played during Phish’s Summer 2023 Tour, with Tom sharing insights about some of the songs he wrote with Trey. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from N...
We've Got A Band E8: Mike Hanford
July 19, 2023 09:00 - 57 minutesWe're back with comedian, actor, and Phish fan Mike Hanford. Thanks for tuning in this season. We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Produced by RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Marketing by Nick Cejas and Eric Limarenko. Art by Mark Dowd.
We've Got a Band E7: Dan Kanter, Part 2
July 12, 2023 09:00 - 54 minutesWe're back with Dan Kanter! Hear James and Gabrielle talk with the guitarist about his Phish journey, meeting Trey, and more! We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Produced by RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Marketing by Nick Cejas and Eric Limarenko. Art by Mark Dowd.
We've Got a Band E6: Dan Kanter, Part 1
July 06, 2023 09:00 - 1 hourDan Kanter, the musical director and former lead guitarist for Justin Bieber, is this week’s guest. Dan is best known for his work Bieber, but he’s also a songwriter, producer, and of course, a Phish fan.This is part 1 of James and Gabby’s conversation with Dan, and part 2 will be next week. We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Prod...
We've Got A Band E5: Scott Rogowsky
June 28, 2023 09:00 - 1 hourThis week’s episode finds James and Gabby in conversation with the Quiz Daddy Scott Rogowsky. Scott talks about his fan journey, the rise and fall of HQ Trivia, and more. We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Produced by RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Marketing by Nick Cejas and Eric Limarenko. Art by Mark D...
We've Got A Band E4: Katy Tur and Jake Sherman
June 21, 2023 09:00 - 27 minutesOn this episode, we bring you two journalists and Phish fans, Katy Tur and Jake Sherman. They're well known for their Phish puns on the air, and they talk to James and Gabby about their Phish journeys, favorite venues, how those puns got started, and a lot more. We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Produced by RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. ...
We've Got A Band E3: Aron Ralston
June 14, 2023 09:00 - 1 hourThis week, James and Gabrielle talk to mountaineer Aron Ralston, the subject of the movie 127 Hours. Aron talks about his experience as a Phish fan, including what he was listening to while he made the decision to amputate his own arm. He shares his spiritual journey with music, and tells stories of how he was able to meet Trey and other musicians after his accident propelled him to international fame. We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluesto...
We've Got A Band E2: Austen Kroll
June 07, 2023 09:05 - 1 hourOn episode 2, Gabrielle and James talk with Bravo star Austen Kroll, a big Phish fan who tells us about his show adventures, his favorite venues, fashion at Phish shows, and more. We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Produced by RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Marketing by Nick Cejas and Eric Limarenko. Art b...
We've Got A Band E1: Chris Witaske
June 07, 2023 09:00 - 1 hourWe kick off the series with an interview with actor Chris Witaske (The Bear, Love, Second City). Hosts Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del talk to Chris about his Phish fandom, the Chicago "Harpua" and hanging with the band at Second City, a memorable trip to Alpine Valley, and a lot more. We've Got A Band is presented by Section 119 and Osiris Media. Created by Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del. Executive Producers are Gabrielle Bluestone, James Del, RJ Bee and Matt Dwyer. Edited and Produced ...
Introducing "We've Got A Band"
May 30, 2023 11:02 - 3 minutesToday we're announcing "We’ve Got A Band," with journalists Gabrielle Bluestone and James Del talking with Phish’s most notable and influential fans—exploring these fans’ creative processes for finding their unique voice, building their own community, and swimming against the cultural current to build something special and everlasting, just like Phish. Season one of We've Got A Band will be released under the Undermine banner, as “Undermine Presents." Guests include “The Bear” actor Chris Wit...
S4E54: 4/5/98
May 12, 2023 09:12 - 25 minutesThis is the end of the Island Tour! And finally, the end of season 4. If you wanna take off, take off, but we encourage you to stick around…for 4/5/98. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Nick Cejas. Original ...
S4E53: 4/4/98
May 11, 2023 09:48 - 30 minutesWe’ve switched islands, but don’t worry, we’re still talking Phish. Join us for this dive into 4/4/98. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd Hosted on...
S4E52: 4/3/98
May 10, 2023 09:51 - 33 minutesToday we keep the Island Tour rolling along, this time diving into the epic 4/3/98. If you haven’t seen it, here’s Amar Sastry’s Anatomy of a Jam video on the Roses Are Free. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance fro...
S4E51: 4/2/98
May 09, 2023 09:34 - 35 minutesIs it still 1997? Depends on who you ask. Today we’re getting back to the end of season 4 and talking in depth about the Island Tour. Four episodes, starting today with 4/2/98. Thanks for coming back. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer....
S4E50: 12/31/97
April 13, 2023 09:06 - 26 minutesNew York, New York! We cap off the New Year’s 97 run with a look at 12/31/97, an extended discussion about encores, and a look forward to 1998. Thanks for tuning in. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Nick Ce...
S4E49: 12/30/97
April 12, 2023 09:06 - 35 minutesAn udder ball, Hannibal Lecter, an outrageous jam (or many), and a lot more. Welcome to 12/30/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Hosted on Aca...
S4E48: 12/29/97
April 11, 2023 09:06 - 28 minutesThe bus has arrived in the Big Apple, and we’re ready to tackle 12/29/97. Enjoy. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Production assistance from Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com...
S4E47: 12/28/97
April 10, 2023 09:06 - 35 minutesWe’re back! Picking up where we left off, we’re going to be releasing episodes on all 4 New Year’s run ‘97 shows, and then we’ll bring you episodes on the Island Tour after Phish’s Spring 2023 tour. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, and Benjy Eisen. Edited by Eric Limarenko. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. Pr...
Tribute to Phish Fall '97: Live Music at Ardmore!
December 15, 2022 01:51 - 2 hoursOn 12/11/22, Osiris this season celebrating Fall '97 to life—with a night of conversation and music. Here, you'll hear set of music in tribute to Fall '97, featuring Cal Kehoe (Pink Talking Fish), Chris Deangelis (The Machine / Kung Fu), Adrian Tramantano (Twiddle / Kung Fu), Jeremy Kaplan (Dogs In A Pile), Andrew Pfeiffer (FeelFree), and Daniel Keller. The setlist is below. Halley's Comet > Tweezer > Izabella, Tube, Wolfman’s Brother > Boogie On Reggae Woman, Ghost, Johnny B. Goode > Jam Yo...
S4E46: 12/13/97 — John Kasiewicz
December 13, 2022 10:39 - 46 minutesTo cap off the last night of Albany, 12/13/97, we have someone who played that night—John Kasiewicz of J. Willis Pratt and We’re Bionic. They opened for Phish that night, and John talks about their show, and the amazing Phish show that follows. A few things to check out: a documentary about Willis and his longtime friendship with Jon Fishman, some audio from the opening set on 12/13/97, and the first band gig with Fishman post-Albany ‘97, from 4/29/98. Finally, the Relix article with Fishma...
S4E45: 12/12/97 — Scott Bernstein
December 12, 2022 10:42 - 37 minutesWe have arrived in Albany for the last couple nights of the tour, and we’re grateful to Scott Bernstein of JamBase to talk to us about 12/12/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Medi...
S4E44: 12/11/97 — Jesse Jarnow
December 11, 2022 10:32 - 47 minutesRochester! Writer and podcaster Jesse Jarnow joins us to talk about this legendary show on 12/11/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ ...
S4E43: 12/9/97 — Benjy Eisen
December 09, 2022 10:19 - 44 minutesAs we head toward the Northeast for the final leg of the tour, we talk with Benjy and RJ, who were both at the show, about how University Park on 12/9/97 stacks up. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought t...
S4E42: 12/7/97 — Andy Gadiel
December 07, 2022 10:30 - 42 minutesWe’re heading to Dayton to talk 12/7/97 with Andy Gadiel! Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Benjy ...
S4E41: 12/6/97 — Ryan Stasik
December 06, 2022 10:30 - 41 minutesToday we’re thrilled to be talking about 12/6/97 with Ryan Stasik of Umphrey’s McGee. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brin...
S4E40: 12/5/97 — RJ Bee
December 05, 2022 10:28 - 35 minutesThe guest today for the 12/5/97 show from Cleveland is our very own RJ Bee. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, Matt...
S4E39: 12/3/97 - Brad Serling
December 03, 2022 10:24 - 51 minutesOur guest today is Nugs.net founder and CEO Brad Serling. Brad chats with Tom and Benjy about seeing Phish in the early 90s as a Grateful Dead fan, his voyage from taper to a career in live music, and of course the amazing show on 12/3/97 at The Spectrum in Philly. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs....
S4E38: 12/2/97 — Marc Brownstein
December 02, 2022 10:30 - 1 hourToday we have a conversation with Marc Brownstein of The Disco Biscuits, who talks about the Philadelphia show on 12/2/97, and a whole lot more about his band, Phish, and the 90s. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermi...
Smartwool Presents—Phish Comfort Songs Pt. 2
December 01, 2022 10:22 - 12 minutesIn this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ share another one of their favorite Phish comfort songs. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Smartwool Presents—Phish Comfort Songs Pt. 1
November 30, 2022 12:08 - 13 minutesIn this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ share one of their favorite Phish comfort songs. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
S4E37: 11/30/97 — Carla Ngo
November 30, 2022 11:00 - 32 minutesWe wrap up the Worcester run by focusing on the last night, 11/30/97, with guest Carla Ngo. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Bria...
Smartwool Presents—We Need Wool!
November 29, 2022 12:05 - 14 minutesIn this bonus episode, presented by Smartwool, Tom, Benjy, and RJ talk about Phish shows when they were most in need of wool. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
S4E36: 11/29/97 — Jeremy D. Goodwin
November 29, 2022 11:36 - 41 minutesWe are on to the weird and wild second night of Worcester, 11/29/97, with our guest Jeremy D. Goodwin. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, R...
Smartwool Presents - Great Outdoor Venues
November 28, 2022 12:12 - 13 minutesThis bonus episode features a discussion about the best outdoor venues to see Phish play. Tom, RJ, and Benjy debate their personal favorites and the merit of music in parking lots. This episode is presented by Smartwool—check out the limited-edition Smartwool x Grateful Dead collection here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
S4E35: 11/28/97 — David Goldstein
November 28, 2022 11:22 - 32 minutesWe have David Goldstein as our guest to talk about the first night of Worcester, 11/28/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian...
S4E34: 11/26/97 — Scott Marks
November 26, 2022 10:00 - 39 minutesWe have Scott Marks back again to talk with us about his first show, 11/26/97. Please consider subscribing to Osiris Premium on Memberful, or to Osiris Premium on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for your support. Thanks to our partners at Green Future Wealth—they can help with all of your financial planning needs. And thank you to our sponsors at Smartwool, Passion House, and CashorTrade. Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brian Brinkman, M...