UIOK 45: Playing the infinite game with Bart De Vries

Today is episode 45 and I’m chatting with Bart De Vries. Bart and I have known each other slightly through for a wee while now so I’ve been able to follow along with some of the stuff he has been up to on social media. I’ve always been fascinated by his path so I was pretty stoked to be able to record a chat with him. It is a shorter conversation than what it could have been, traffic was atrocious when I was trying to get to him, and Bart was off the next day to help out with the New Zealand Golf Open so needed to finish sorting somethings out.

Nevertheless we managed to have what I felt was a pretty interesting conversation. We get a bit of background on Bart, his interest in the human body growing up, playing some professional Hockey, going and playing gold every day for four months with his mates, how he got into business and learnt by giving it a go as well as surrounding himself with some good mentors.

We also chat about, embracing vulnerability and the unknown, continuously challenging biases and assumptions, the gaps between how we understand the body and health and how that knowledge isn’t applied in business, becoming a beginner, and building cool desks.

On the topic of cool desks, Bart has been working on a prototype for an adjustable height desk for a while, which I saw and have to saw that it is pretty awesome. Once it comes to market I’ll definitely share some pictures of it for you guys to check out.

This conversation only touches the surface of what I want to chat to Bart about so we’ll definitely have to get him back at some point. Thanks for taking the time to get uncomfortable with us today.

Guest: Bart De Vries

Host: Chris Desmond

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Music: Jeremy Desmond