The UNcivilized Podcast with Traver Boehm
374 episodes - English - Latest episode: 4 days ago - ★★★★★ - 42 ratingsFor people who see through the veil of the civilized paradigm.
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Nice Guys —why trying to belong is strangling your authenticity with Traver Boehm
April 15, 2024 07:00 - 20 minutes - 23 MBI’ve often talked about and taught the notion of Attachment vs Authenticity when it comes to Nice Guy work. And the idea of attachment is real — but it’s taken me a few years of working with it and hearing about it quite often for it truly to stick. Thus I’m now shifting to talking about Belonging vs Authenticity — especially with but not exclusive to Nice Guys. In this short solo episode I break down why your need to belong may be strangling you of your authentic expression and I give you...
UNcivilized masculinity vs Traditional masculinity with Traver Boehm
April 08, 2024 07:30 - 12 minutes - 14.4 MBAn Instagram follower asked me the difference between aspects of Traditional Masculinity and our UNcivilized Masculinity and rather than write him back a novel, I decided to record this solo episode for you. In it, I jump right to the point and outline what’s great about Traditional Masculinity and — what needed to be upgraded about it. Thus the creation of UNcivilized Masculinity. I outline what makes us different and why…key word — relationship. Enjoy. Please do share this with one per...
Francis Weller — Living a soulfully UNcivilized life.
April 01, 2024 07:30 - 1 hour - 67.9 MBFrancis Weller has been an inspiration for me for years now. The way he speaks and shares his work around initiation and living a soulful life hits me in my core. It stops my frantic mind and makes me feel like the world is going to be okay…even if it may not be. In this episode I get to sit down with Francis and have a frank conversation about men, about getting in touch with our deeper parts, and with what we need to do to make sure we as a species don’t got extinct. You know, light flu...
Three massive changes I’ve had from men’s work with Traver Boehm
March 25, 2024 07:00 - 15 minutes - 17.3 MBIn this short and punchy solo episode, I answer another question from Instagram: “What were the most transformative parts of men’s work for you?” I dive into the top three for you so you can decide for yourself if these are pieces you want to try on yourself. Outgrowing substances like alcohol, weed, and porn Getting to be authentically me in men’s groups Having Michael Gay say, “Set the tone…” and turning the embodiment lightbulb on Enjoy. Please do share this with one person in your...
Where to begin your men’s work journey with Traver Boehm.
March 18, 2024 07:30 - 16 minutes - 22.1 MBLast week I was on a call with a man who asked me this profound question, “Where do I begin my men’s work journey? There are so many places I can start from?” In this episode I break down a great starting point for you if you’re about to embark on your men’s work journey, or where to return to if you’ve currently been on a break and aren’t sure where to pick back up. I also share a new frame for you that takes the edge and anxiety out of how overwhelming the decision may be. Enjoy. Please ...
What to do when you struggle finding your purpose with Traver Boehm.
March 11, 2024 07:30 - 18 minutes - 25.9 MBIn this short solo episode, I break down the two main blocks I see when people try to figure out their purpose. Knowing why you’re here and what you’re here to do is a BIG deal. And being stuck without knowing either can lead to a lot of undue suffering. This episode will help ease that suffering and give you a path forward when you’re in between major chapters of your life. Enjoy. Please do share this with one person in your life, or twenty. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civiliz...
Failure to Launch
March 04, 2024 08:30 - 16 minutes - 23.2 MBI actually did walk through the woods to go to school, and sometimes it was freezing. I figured out pretty early on that there are a lot of guys who get things handed to them where I didn't. I also figured out I wasn't the smartest but I had the willingness and ability to outwork just about anybody. But we all had one thing in common. Failure to launch. We all hit "failure to launch" in our lives, multiple times. The way you get out of that rut is... Listen to this podcast. And learn. And...
Advanced Concepts — Space holding vs Selfishness
February 26, 2024 08:07 - 9 minutes - 12.4 MBAfter BDSM teacher Andy Buru came into The UNcivilized Nation and dropped this notion for all of us, I’ve been seeing how potent of an idea this is — balancing space holding and selfishness actually is. AND how confronting it is for so many people to lean into the one that’s not their natural way. In this short solo episode I break down why being able to do both will change your sex life, your income, and your relationships at large. Enjoy. Please do share this with one person in your lif...
Duey Freeman — What men fear most is being afraid.
February 19, 2024 08:30 - 38 minutes - 52.5 MBThis is an important episode and please stay to the end of it where we go into a depth we never planned on. Last week Duey quoted a book he’s reading about how men mostly fear the experience of being afraid. I put my knife and fork down and asked him to tell me more. As he did, I knew we had to record this episode and share it with you all. It starts a bit slow but then we get into hard hitting concepts that you can use to shift your life immediately. Enjoy. Please do share this with one...
Jeremy Allen — At the root of all grief is relationship
February 12, 2024 08:31 - 1 hour - 90.6 MBMaking a brief return to interviewing, I get to sit down here with a man who has been a mortician since the age of 18. Wild huh? We talk a lot about grief, the power of full expression and how we can shift the societal tide that’s preventing so many people from feeling what’s only natural in their lives. Enjoy. Please do share this with one person in your life, or twenty. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "No thank you," then you should subscribe to our pod...
Powerful advice for Nice Guys and Cool Girls
February 05, 2024 08:24 - 17 minutes - 23.5 MBIn this episode I tackle one of my favorite topics — being a Nice Guy (or Cool Girl). Since this is my background and our most popular course, I’m diving in and giving you three concrete ideas for you to apply right now to start to shift this paradigm in your life. You will NOT get what you want in life JUST making other people happy. The life you want will cost you the one you have. You’re so much closer to the life you want than you think. Enjoy. Please do share this with one person i...
49 Days In The Pitch Dark
January 29, 2024 08:12 - 1 hour - 103 MBIn this episode I sit down with Lama Justin von Bujdoss and talk about many things. Namely, his experience in a 49 day dark retreat, his time working in hospice, as well as his career as a prison chaplain. The man has seen and experienced beauty and loss on a grand scale. This is a fabulous interview where he talks about how we can all deal with the darker pieces of our lives and the potential challenges we will all inevitably face. Enjoy. Please do share this with one person in your life...
There are no missteps.
January 22, 2024 08:04 - 15 minutes - 21 MBOne of the pains so many people experience is from looking back on their lives and thinking they wasted time with a particular chapter. I hear this in workshops and with my private clients. “Gosh, if I hadn’t spent those 5 years studying agriculture and instead had 5 more years in my current profession of real estate development.” Or something like this. In this punchy solo episode I share about my own journey to becoming the founder of The UNcivilized Movement and how it was anything but...
Ralek Gracie — From Jiujitsu royalty to filmmaking mastery
January 15, 2024 08:00 - 1 hour - 104 MBThis episode is powerful. In it I get to sit down with the great Ralek Gracie. Born into Jiujitsu royalty Ralek has spent his life on the mat, in the ring, and in the cage. His life was about little else than jiujitsu and being a Gracie. Yet a business failure and the subsequent introspection took his life down a completely separate path, one of art, authenticity, and unapologetic expression. In this episode you’ll get a VIP pass into Ralek’s journey and how you can immediately apply the l...
Head, Heart, Whoopsie
January 08, 2024 08:16 - 12 minutes - 13.9 MBHey UNcivilized Fam, So many men who get themselves into Men’s Work fall into this early trap. Please give this short solo episode a listen on how you can avoid — forgetting your balls! In this episode I break down UNcivilized Ethos Tenet #8 and remind me all the beautiful benefits of living a powerful life. HHB, Fellas. Not just H. Enjoy and please share this with someone in your life. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "No thank you," then you should subscr...
2024 The sacred path of power — a personal invitation.
January 01, 2024 14:21 - 15 minutes - 21.9 MBGood day and welcome to 2024. In this raw yearly opener, I invite you to join me and all of us at UNcivilized to walk along side of us in a new way. A powerful way. In this episode I share my year name and why I chose it as well as ask you to join me on your own powerful path. Enjoy. Please do share this with one person in your life, or twenty. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "No thank you," then you should subscribe to our podcast, so you don't miss a sin...
10 Things Every UNcivilized Man Should Be Able To Do
December 25, 2023 08:08 - 28 minutes - 30.8 MBA Christmas episode for you! Whether you’re taking a break from family or today is a hard day for you, here is an episode to lighten your heart and give you something constructive to work on. I asked the men of The UNcivilized Nation what 10 skills every UNcivilized Man should have. These are 10 (actually 11) of them. They’re solid. Enjoy and please share this episode with one person in your life. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "No thank you," then you shou...
The UNcivilized Ethos — A Quick Breakdown
December 18, 2023 08:01 - 16 minutes - 18.1 MBThe UNcivilized Ethos is the core of the movement and a tool thousands of men and women all over the globe tap into and use for their success and to get them back on track when the slip off. In this quick and dirty solo episode I tell the story of how the Ethos came about and give you two quick thoughts on each tenet. Enjoy and please share this episode with one person in your life. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "No thank you," then you should subscribe to...
An UNcivilized Man is Raw, Real, & Relational
December 11, 2023 08:00 - 15 minutes - 17.8 MBA few months ago I was at breakfast with the great Duey Freeman, chewing on some bacon and talking about the future of the Nation. He asked me a million dollar question: “How do you now define an UNcivilized Man?” I answered, “Well, he’s raw…he’s real…” And Duey finished my sentence, “And he’s relational.” In this short solo episode I breakdown what this means and how you can apply it in your life starting today. Enjoy and please share this with someone in your life. Cheers, Traver I...
What to do when you find yourself lost in life
December 04, 2023 08:37 - 20 minutes - 23 MBIt happens. It happens to all of us. In fact it’s happened to me a few times in the past two years as well — that terrible feeling of being lost in your life. In this short and sweet solo episode I share how I got myself back on track after getting jostled pretty hard by some deaths and a near death accident. I know these ideas work as I’ve also now taught them in numerous workshops. Enjoy and please share this with someone in your life. Cheers, Traver
Fierce isn’t aggressive.
November 27, 2023 08:30 - 12 minutes - 13.5 MBMen, there’s a big misconception out there that ferocity and passion are aggressive if they’re displayed by men. Fierceness is a key ingredient to your UNcivilized life. In this short solo episode I break down the difference between being fierce and being aggressive with the key word being — heart. Enjoy and please share this with someone in your life. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "No thank you," then you should subscribe to our podcast, so you don't miss...
How to NOT gain 15 lbs over the holidays.
November 20, 2023 08:30 - 18 minutes - 21 MBParties, cocktails, your aunt’s famous apple pie…it often feels like the holidays stack the deck against your fitness and health goals. For a lot of folks, men and women alike, Jan 1 is not a great day. They wake up feeling fat, bloated, and disappointed in both themselves and the hole they have to crawl out of. In this short episode with The UNcivilized Body Coach Zeb Pascual, we give you three key ways to NOT gain 15lbs over the holidays while still enjoying yourself. Enjoy and please ...
You Are The Movement
November 13, 2023 08:32 - 13 minutes - 15.1 MBHowdy folks, In this short but hard hitting episode I invite you into YOUR UNcivilized life. I break down the massive workshop we held last weekend, give you insight into the state of The UNcivilized Movement and share what essentially is a five day workshop in under 3 minutes. You definitely want to give this a listen. Why? Because YOU are The UNcivilized Movement. Enjoy and please share this with someone in your life. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "No t...
The two steps to glory.
November 06, 2023 08:30 - 20 minutes - 23.4 MBIn this short solo episode I break down the two steps you can start to take immediately to live an UNcivilized life — ie. THE LIFE OF YOUR DREAMS. I’ll give them to you here but you’re still going to have to do the work yourself. Or another way to say that is, “You GET to go on the ride of your life if you do this.” The steps are: 1) Figure out what you ACTUALLY want 2) Go build that Yep, once you make this your way of life all kinds of amazing and challenging things happen for you and ...
The Darkness - Part 2
October 30, 2023 07:00 - 37 minutes - 42 MBWhy do people fear darkness? The answer lies in its uncontrollability. Darkness stirs up the deepest corners of our minds, like a blank canvas for our deepest fears. It's like being trapped in a horror movie with no escape. In this second part of our "Darkness" series, Traver Boehm and Katie Sroka are diving deep into the idea of darkness as an entity, unraveling the reasons behind people's profound fear of it. Looking ahead, there's something on the horizon. As Traver approaches his 49th ...
The Darkness - Part 1
October 23, 2023 07:00 - 32 minutes - 36.5 MBJust imagine, 28 days in total darkness – now that's something wild, right? Well, get ready to hear a wild journey through an interview. In this episode, things take an interesting turn as the interviewer becomes the interviewee. Our dear Katie Sroka takes the host chair and delves into Traver's profound experience: spending 28 days in total darkness. For those not in the loop, in 2016, Traver found himself locked in a pitch-black room in Guatemala, an event that would dramatically resha...
Let’s pop the Guru fantasy.
October 16, 2023 07:33 - 10 minutes - 12.3 MBHowdy folks. In this short solo episode I talk about one of the blocks many people have when it comes to social media and the self development space — making the person they follow into a Guru. After years spent in the trenches of the Self Development world, I can tell you — we are all human. And many people are not what they seem. At all. Give this 10 minutes of your time and you’ll walk away with a fresh perspective on who you follow. Enjoy and please share this with someone in your lif...
How'd Traver Get UNcivilized? - Staff Interview with Erin
October 09, 2023 07:47 - 38 minutes - 35.3 MBIt's the third and final week for my team to interview me. This week it's Erin, lovingly referred to as the Director of Traver (we'll explain that title in the podcast). Together we dove into what made and still makes Traver UNcivilized, and a few specific questions from a woman's perspective of how to connect with men. Our conversation perfectly rounds out this series and I hope you love it as much as I did. Cheers, Traver
Digging Deep into Traver's Brain - Staff Interview with Malina
October 02, 2023 07:37 - 32 minutes - 29.8 MBIt's week two for the Team at UNcivilized to interview me! This week it's Malina, our Director of Operations, and let's just say she isn't thrilled about speaking into a microphone. But like a typical member of the UNcivilized world, she showed up full stop. She's asked me some very deep questions, in typical Malina fashion, and I just love her for it. She made me think and she made me feel. Enjoy! Cheers, Traver
Traver's Upbringing - Staff Interview with Denise
September 25, 2023 10:11 - 1 hour - 56.3 MBThe people who work at Team UNcivilized are as committed to helping end the suffering in men to help the suffering caused by men as I am. For the next few weeks, you'll get to hear them interview me. First up is Denise. Our Director of Design, Denise does so much more than that. Sure, she was sweating through half this recording, but she also asked me some incredible questions about my own background. Some of it might surprise you. Cheers, Traver
Needs, Wants, & Healthy Boundaries — LIVE Nice Guy Call
September 18, 2023 07:30 - 40 minutes - 44.7 MBIn this live class with my Kill The Nice Guy Group, I dive head first into the power of figuring out your needs SPECIFICALLY as a man, understanding and expressing what you want in this world, then having the healthy boundaries to make sure your life is in integrity. This is a hard hitting class, recorded with 50 men on a call so please excuse the casual nature. Needs, wants, and boundaries are beyond important for any man, but especially if you want to live an extraordinary life. Enjoy an...
How to spot the female version of a Nice Guy
September 11, 2023 07:30 - 18 minutes - 20.2 MBWe hear a LOT about Nice Guys, especially around the UNcivilized. Many men come to men’s work after discovering that they themselves are Nice Guys and this is their entree point onto the path of becoming whole as a man. But what is the female equivalent of Nice Guy? And how do you spot it whether you’re in the dating world or not. In this short solo episode I break down the Good Girl, how to spot her, and why, just like the Nice Guy, what sounds great at first…doesn’t last. Enjoy, Traver...
Making sense of boundaries - with Traver Boehm
September 04, 2023 07:30 - 15 minutes - 17.8 MBIn this quick and dirty solo episode I’m answering a question I got on Instagram about what exactly boundaries are and how to set them and keep them. Boundaries are the special sauce of relationships. With them your relationships will thrive and can last forever. Without them you will slowly build up resentment and until you explode. Trust me as I speak from personal experience on this. I’m diving into how to understand boundaries more deeply, why you need them, and the magic sentence that...
Whose rules are you playing by? — with Traver Boehm
August 28, 2023 07:29 - 12 minutes - 13.5 MBWe men often don’t stop and ask ourselves, “Whose rules am I playing by? Are they mine? Do they work for me? What if I changed them?” In this short solo episode I share a conversation I had with a man after Jiujitsu who has changed his entire outlook on life just by questioning whose rules he was living by. This is especially important for Nice Guys who often aren’t playing by ONE set of someone else’s rules but changing depending on who is in front of them. This episode is hard hitting a...
Change your life as a man by changing this one pattern — with Traver Boehm
August 21, 2023 07:30 - 35 minutes - 39.1 MBSo many men are stuck thinking in this one certain way — I have to make everyone else happy before I’ll have a good life. And that’s a death sentence to your hopes, dreams, and confidence. In this live call with the men in my Kill The Nice Guy Group I dive into how to shift this limiting thought into a powerful one. One that will change every way you exist in the world, and how the world interacts with you. Cheers, Traver If you look at the civilized world and think, "no thank you," then...
These secret agreements are killing your relationships with Traver Boehm
August 14, 2023 07:20 - 30 minutes - 27.9 MBI wish I had a more easily understood term for the words Covert Contracts, but I don’t…yet. And — everyone has these secret, one-way agreements in our relationships that slowly build resentment, erode trust, and actually prevent us from getting the very needs we’re desperate to get met from doing just that. In this solo episode I break down what a Covert Contract is, how you can spot them in your relationship, and how you can STOP using them and instead speak your needs directly. Enjoy Ch...
What to do when you’ve had back to back to back losses with Traver Boehm
August 07, 2023 07:33 - 17 minutes - 20 MBAny time a potential client tells me they’ve recently had three major losses or setbacks, I take a deep breath and listen carefully. So often this is their soul’s way of completely reorganizing their lives in a far more aligned way than it’s ever been before. If you’re experiencing back to back or perhaps even three losses in a row, this episode is for you. I’ll break down my own dark night of the soul and how it was a blessing in disguise. I’ll also give you tangible ways of navigating th...
Overcoming your fear of rejection with Traver Boehm
July 31, 2023 07:25 - 15 minutes - 17.6 MBFear of rejection shows up in many less than obvious ways. It can be the difference between speaking your mind and keeping quiet, sharing your post or deleting before anyone gets a chance to read it. Many people believe there’s a switch you can flip and suddenly this deep fear will just disappear. This is not the case that I have found. However, there are actions you can take and frames you can adopt to make your fear of rejection go from a huge burden in your life to a roommate who lives a...
Ryan Goodman - The truth about selling your company for stupid amounts of money
July 24, 2023 07:01 - 55 minutes - 51.2 MBIn this impactful interview, entrepreneur Ryan Goodman sheds light on the urgent issue of anti-child sex trafficking, emphasizing the need for collective action. Through his business, Ryan becomes a beacon of hope, actively fighting against this heinous crime and making a meaningful difference in the lives of victims. We'll be diving into Ryan's powerful journey of purpose-driven entrepreneurship, where emotions fuel actionable change. It's a great reminder that meaningful action can lead t...
Change your Body, Change your Life - Robert Sikes
July 17, 2023 10:44 - 50 minutes - 46.3 MBIn today's society, the prevalence of body image issues and body dysmorphia has risen, particularly within the realm of fitness and bodybuilding. However, amidst these challenges, there are individuals who are dedicated to helping others overcome these obstacles. One awesome person in this category is Robert Sikes, a bodybuilder who's all about motivating and inspiring anyone who wants to be their best self. Now, in case you haven't heard of Robert before, he has made a name for himself in ...
Dr. Zhana Vrangalova — There’s more than monogamy.
July 10, 2023 07:00 - 1 hour - 62.6 MBGet ready to embark on a mind-bending journey into the wild and wonderful world of relationships! On this episode of the UNcivilized podcast, we're tearing down the walls of assumptions about love in America and turning things upside down. We've got a special guest joining us today, the incredible Dr. Zhana, a true guru when it comes to human sexuality and relationships. Prepare to have your mind blown because Dr. Zhana is about to drop some mind-boggling statistics that will make you reth...
The Mental App Founders — How men strengthen their mindset
June 26, 2023 06:55 - 1 hour - 56.7 MBLife is a short and unique journey that should be cherished and maximized to its fullest potential. It is crucial not only to prioritize our own personal growth but also to assist others in doing the same. In the modern era, we have become more conscious of the significance of mental health. However, despite being familiar with the subject, we often neglect our own internal struggles. Mental health plays a fundamental role in many people's lives, and it is one of the main reasons why some m...
Anna Rova — The dance of masculine and feminine in relationship
June 19, 2023 06:42 - 1 hour - 58.3 MBIn the world of relationships, let's shake up the bad love statistic, rewrite the rulebook, and create a love story that blows everyone's mind. And today, our guest, Anna Rova, is here to teach us how. In this episode, we're excited to have Anna Rova join us all the way from Australia. She's a pro when it comes to understanding masculinity, feminine dynamics, and helping successful ladies break free from their cages and embrace their feminine side. Now, I know what you're thinking. With al...
Of Poetry and Porn — with Max Stossel
June 12, 2023 07:07 - 1 hour - 55.7 MBIn today's tech-savvy world, it is crucial to examine the impact of technology on youth, particularly regarding two significant concerns: the influence of pornography and social media on teenagers. In this episode, we had the privilege of hosting Max Stossel. He's a renowned poet and advocate, and he's here to talk about how technology is affecting the younger generation. Max digs deep into the challenges we face, like the impact of porn and social media on their views of sex and relationsh...
Mike Campbell — Navigating the transitions of your life.
June 05, 2023 07:57 - 1 hour - 58.7 MBGet ready for an exciting episode where we support and understand men in their journey through life. Our special guest is the amazing Mike Campbell, a former rugby player turned advocate for men facing challenges. We'll explore his story, motivations, and the profound impact he's had on countless lives. We'll also tackle the burning question: are sports truly beneficial for men? Mike shares fascinating insights, reminding us that there's more to life than external validation and physical ap...
Michaela Boehm — The Wild, The Domestic, & A New Iteration of Relationship
May 29, 2023 07:46 - 56 minutes - 52.6 MB"In the wild, there is the preservation of life; in the domestic, the cultivation of it." - Henry David Thoreau. Hey, folks! Get ready to explore the fascinating duality of human nature in this episode. We've got a special guest, Michaela Boehm, a renowned relationship expert, teacher, and author. She'll provide unique insights into the wild and domestic sides of men. In this thought-provoking conversation, we challenge what it means to be human by examining the interplay between our prima...
Why you need to know about women’s sexual health. — Carly Rae Beaudry
May 22, 2023 07:00 - 56 minutes - 52 MBEmbrace the natural rhythm of life, for it holds the key to genuine connection. Get ready for an eye-opening episode where we dive into why it's so important for guys to understand women's menstrual cycles. Our special guest, Carly Rae Beaudry, is here to guide women in embracing their cycles and feminine nature. Trust me, this knowledge can seriously level up your support and intimacy in relationships. Join us as we bust some myths, chat about the power of fertility awareness, and navigat...
The Wild vs The Domestic - Tom Elsner
May 15, 2023 10:38 - 1 hour - 77.3 MBFor men, there is no greater battle than the one between the wild and the domestic. As humans, we all struggle with our inner conflicts. Today, we invite you to learn how to feel and deal with them in the best way possible. And to help us better understand this, we have an amazing guest joining us today: Tom Elsner. In this episode, we talk about the benefits of imagination, learning to feel, and surrendering in order to find answers to our internal struggles. After listening to this epis...
What an award winning barber can teach you about following your soul. - Matty Conrad
May 08, 2023 05:45 - 1 hour - 60.2 MBHave you ever felt like the whole world is against you? Matty Conrad has been there too. Matty started from humble beginnings as a shampoo boy, but now he's one of the top men's grooming experts in North America. He's the founder of Victory Barber & Brand, a critically acclaimed barbershop that's been featured in international press. He's also been named "Canadian Barber of the Year" and "Coolest Barber on Instagram" by GQ magazine. In this episode, Matty shares his journey and gives us s...
There’s no refund for real life. - Stephen Jenkinson and Kimberly Ann Johnson
May 01, 2023 05:45 - 1 hour - 66 MBEmbrace the wisdom of your years and let it shine brightly! Elderhood ain't the time to fade away - it's your time to illuminate the world with your experience and love.As we journey through life, we often think about the legacy we want to leave behind. It's a big question that can bring up all sorts of emotions - from pride to anxiety. Today, we've got two incredible guests, Stephen Jenkinson and Kimberly Johnson, who are going to help shed some light on this question. Together, we're goin...