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ADCG on Privacy & Cybersecurity

113 episodes - English - Latest episode: 5 months ago -

“ADCG on Privacy & Cybersecurity” podcast brings together leaders in the privacy and cybersecurity arenas to discuss a wide range of issues ranging from the proposed federal and state regulations to best practices and standards for compliance. Data is the lifeblood of the U.S. economy and economic competitiveness issues loom large. The objective of the podcast is to bring cutting-edge views and newsworthy information on privacy and cybersecurity to our listening audience. The podcast series is global in scope, bringing in issues from the EU, UK, Russia, China, Australia, New Zealand, India, Canada, and around the world.

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Privacy & Diversity, Equity & Inclusion and the Impact on the Development and Use of AI

December 06, 2023 05:00 - 38 minutes - 35.5 MB

This week the ADCG Privacy & Cybersecurity Podcast is pleased to have Shoshana Rosenberg, CEO and Founder of SafePorter and one of the most respected names in the field of privacy and a thought leader at the intersection of privacy and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion ("DEI"). We discuss her groundbreaking work analyzing how principles governing privacy and DEI can influence the development and use of AI technologies, including how privacy and bias concerns shape the conversation around AI, how...

Privacy & Diversity, Equity & Inclusion and There Impact on the Development and Use of AI

December 06, 2023 05:00 - 38 minutes - 35.5 MB

This week the ADCG Privacy & Cybersecurity Podcast is pleased to have Shoshana Rosenberg, CEO and Founder of SafePorter and one of the most respected names in the field of privacy and a thought leader at the intersection of privacy and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion ("DEI"). We discuss her groundbreaking work analyzing how principles governing privacy and DEI can influence the development and use of AI technologies, including how privacy and bias concerns shape the conversation around AI, how...

103 | Privacy & Diversity, Equity & Inclusion and the Impact on the Development and Use of AI

December 06, 2023 05:00 - 38 minutes - 35.5 MB

This week the ADCG Privacy & Cybersecurity Podcast is pleased to have Shoshana Rosenberg, CEO and Founder of SafePorter and one of the most respected names in the field of privacy and a thought leader at the intersection of privacy and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion ("DEI"). We discuss her groundbreaking work analyzing how principles governing privacy and DEI can influence the development and use of AI technologies, including how privacy and bias concerns shape the conversation around AI, how...

102 | Tackling Data Deletion

October 18, 2023 04:00 - 31 minutes - 29 MB

This week’s episode of ADCG’s Privacy & Cybersecurity Podcast features a discussion with Jeff Jockisch about his new company, Avantis Privacy, which specializes in data deletion services. Jeff is a renowned privacy researcher, the CEO of PrivacyPlan and CPO of Avantis Privacy. In this episode, we discuss the daunting prospect of managing one’s personal data, data brokers and what they do, and the process of requesting personal be deleted. Jeff discusses the approach taken by Avantis Privac...

101 | American Bar Association: Leading Resource and Policy Leader Through Its Cybersecurity Task Force

October 11, 2023 04:00 - 35 minutes - 32.8 MB

This episode features Donata Stroink-Skillrud, Co-Founder and President of Termageddon, a software service that specializes in the identification of privacy laws applicable to an organization and the development of privacy policies, terms of service, and end user license agreements for that organization. Donata is an attorney who also represents the American Bar Association’s Section of Science and Technology Law on the ABA President’s Cybersecurity Legal Task Force (CLTF). In this episode, ...

100 | Looking at Cyber Risk Management: the Perspective Across the Pond

September 20, 2023 04:00 - 36 minutes - 33.1 MB

This episode features Dr. Peter Trim, a Reader in Marketing and Security Management at the University of London’s Birkbeck Business School. Dr. Trim has published a dozen books, and his most recent (2023) focuses on Strategic Cyber Security Risk Management. Cybersecurity best practices began in the UK with British Standard 7799, which morphed into ISO 27001/002. Dr. Trim discusses the necessity for a collective approach in cybersecurity and the need to maintain an international perspective...

99 | The Power of Choice for Authentication

September 06, 2023 04:00 - 26 minutes - 24.6 MB

In this episode of ADCG on Privacy & Security podcast, host Jody Westby is joined by Sabrina Gross, regional director of strategic partners at Veridas. Sabrina has worked globally and spent 15 years working with law enforcement agencies in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. At Veridas, Sabrina focuses on cutting-edge technologies that are used for authentication and to prevent identity fraud. We discuss the importance of having a choice of authentication options, limitations of various de...

98 | The Importance of Digital Asset Inventories in Incident Response

August 30, 2023 04:00 - 29 minutes - 26.7 MB

This episode of the ADCG Privacy and Cybersecurity Podcast features Ken Westin, Field CISO for Panther Labs. Ken has been in the cybersecurity field for over 15 years, working with companies to improve their security posture through threat hunting, insider threat programs, and vulnerability research. We discuss how the lack of good application and data inventories impact incident response. When data is spread across data centers, clouds, and SaaS providers, it becomes difficult to track and...

97 | The Race Between AI and Laws

August 16, 2023 04:00 - 29 minutes - 27.1 MB

This episode features Scott Giordano, former vice president and general counsel for Spirion who has more than 25 years of legal, technology, and risk management expertise and was one of the first attorneys to jump into artificial intelligence. We will discuss the implications of AI for privacy and information security, current US state laws, the EU AI Act, and what companies can do to prepare for “AI everywhere.” Scott also discusses the recent “Career Essentials in Generative AI” course he...

96 | SEC Cyber Risk Management: What It Means and Will It Make a Difference

August 07, 2023 04:00 - 44 minutes - 40.7 MB

In this episode, Jody Westby interviews Gerry Stegmaier, a partner in ReedSmith’s Tech & Data Group. Gerry focuses on digital issues, corporate governance, incident response, privacy, and cybersecurity matters, plus other areas. We discuss the new SEC Cybersecurity Risk Management Rule for public companies, how it differs from the proposed rule, key requirements and compliance deadlines, and the practical impact on cyber incident disclosures, identifying and disclosing material cyber risks,...

95 | Data Privacy is Exploding: What You Need to Know & Do

August 01, 2023 04:00 - 44 minutes - 40.7 MB

This week’s podcast episode features Steve Britt, Counsel at Parker Poe and privacy expert to discuss the five state privacy laws that went into effect in 2023 and the TEN that have been enacted in 2023, how they vary, what they have in common, and this new “trend” to protect consumer health data (not HIPAA data). Steve also discusses the new requirement for Data Protection Assessments, expanded protections for children’s data, and regulatory risk factors and triggers. He ends with key take...

94 | Cyber Insurance: What is Around the Corner?

July 24, 2023 04:00 - 37 minutes - 34.6 MB

This episode features Peter Halprin, a partner in the New York City office of Pasich LLP in New York, representing commercial policyholders in complex insurance coverage matters, including cyber. We discuss the price increases in coverage and the scrutiny given claims under property and casualty, cyber, and corporate general liability policies, the risks in the application process, new technology risks associated with biometrics and AI, cyberwar exclusions, and possible changes to policy lan...

93 | SolarWinds and SEC: CISOs Back in the Crosshairs

July 18, 2023 04:00 - 32 minutes - 29.9 MB

This podcast episode features Mark Rasch, a renowned privacy and cybersecurity attorney, to discuss the SEC’s investigation into the SolarWinds incident and the “Wells notices” it sent to the company’s CISO and CFO. The Wells notices indicate the SEC is conducting a civil investigation of those individuals and they may be facing enforcement actions. The news sent tremors through the CISO community and brought back thoughts of Joe Sullivan’s criminal prosecution — and conviction — for the wa...

92 | Interview With Tom Kemp, Silicon Valley Privacy Advocate and Author of Containing Big Tech

June 05, 2023 04:00 - 45 minutes - 41.5 MB

In this episode we discuss privacy rights with Tom Kemp, a Silicon Valley-based author, entrepreneur, investor, and policy advisor who helped get the CPRA adopted and is author of the California Delete Act of 2023. His forthcoming book, Containing Big Tech: How to Protect our Civil Rights, Economy, and Democracy, published by Fast Company Press, focuses on the use of AI with personal data and the concentrated power of large Big Tech companies and how this paradigm impacts our personal privac...

91 | Managed Detection & Response; The Path Forward

May 10, 2023 04:00 - 31 minutes - 28.8 MB

This week our guest is Sam DeNormandie, Senior Account Director with Silver Sky Security, a Managed Detection and Response (MDR) firm primarily servicing the small and mid-sized business (SMB) market. Sam is a seasoned cybersecurity expert with experience at Cylance, Blackberry, and Cyvatar and understands the security needs of the small to mid-sized business. This episode discusses the challenges faced by SMBs, in part due to the difficulty they have in hiring the people they need and mana...

90 | AdTech Meets Privacy Laws

April 13, 2023 04:00 - 40 minutes - 37.2 MB

This week our guest is Susan Israel, principal of Susan Israel Law, and one of the most respected privacy professionals in the field. Susan has a pre-law background in broadcast news and publishing and has become one of the foremost experts on privacy compliance in the field of advertising technology. We discuss key aspects of AdTech compliance, such as cookies, location data, and IP addresses, the issues associated with them, and trends in legal frameworks and regulatory approaches. Susan...

89 | Quantum Technologies: What is Possible, Where We Are Headed & Policy Issues to Consider

March 29, 2023 04:00 - 37 minutes - 34.2 MB

This week’s podcast guest is Chris Jay Hoofnagle, professor of law in residence at the University of California, Berkeley and affiliated faculty with the Simons Institute for the Theory of Computing. We discuss Chris and Simson Garfinkel’s new book, Law and Policy for the Quantum Age, what quantum technologies are, the consequential implications of quantum technologies, actions within the White House and Congress supporting quantum R&D, and geopolitical issues in the race to develop quantum ...

88 | TikTok: A Path for Election Interference and Open Source Intelligence?

March 17, 2023 13:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

This episode features Berit Anderson, COO of Future in Review and Strategic News Service, and Evan Anderson, CEO of INVNT/IP. Both Berit and Evan are geopolitical analysts, tech thought leaders, and media executives. We discuss the issue of whether TikTok will be banned in the U.S. and examine the data that could be collected, how it can be a rich source for open intelligence, and how it could be used for election interference. Strategic News Service coined the term CRINK — China, Russia, ...

87 | Artificial Intelligence & Chatbots…Helpful or Harmful?

February 22, 2023 05:00 - 33 minutes - 30.5 MB

This week our guest is Heather West, Silicon Valley rock star and Senior Director of Cybersecurity Services at Venable LLP. We explore artificial intelligence (AI) and chatbots, such as ChatGPT, and discuss what these technologies can do, who will be early adopters and beneficiaries of AI, whether articles or answers generated by AI can be trusted, and look at some of the privacy and security risks associated with AI. Heather is policy and tech translator, product consultant, and long-ter...

86 | Using Tools to Help Manage Incident Response

February 16, 2023 05:00 - 36 minutes - 33.7 MB

Lauren Wallace, Chief Privacy Officer and General Counsel for RadarFirst, a leading tool for cyber incident management joins our host, Jody Wesby, on episode 86 of ADCG on Privacy & Cybersecurity. Building off our last podcast with Violet Sullivan, we discuss how privacy and cybersecurity incidents are converging and the difficulty large companies are having in managing the vast array of data involved in incident response, especially as it relates to U.S. and global privacy and cybersecurity...

85 | How Incident Response Has Changed

February 08, 2023 05:00 - 30 minutes - 28.2 MB

This week we are joined by Violet Sullivan, Vice President of Client Engagement for Redpoint Cybersecurity, and incident response expert. Violet discusses how incident response has changed over the past five years, how ransomware has changed IR plans and how companies respond to attacks, and how cyber insurance has pushed revisions to incident response. We also discuss the role incident response plays in litigation management, and what companies can do to improve their response and reduce r...

84 | Internet Archive Project Related to Russia’s War with Ukraine

December 16, 2022 05:00 - 32 minutes - 30.1 MB

In this episode, Mark Graham, Director of the Wayback Machine of the Internet Archive discusses his work backing up the Internet, TV, radio, chats, etc. around the globe, and the role it plays in preserving not only data, but cultures of countries. Mark describes the value of having content preserved and accessible from a source where governments can’t take it down and discusses the Internet Archive’s project in backing up and scanning data important to Urkaine’s culture, which is getting de...

83 | Geofence Warrants and January 6: Constitutional and Privacy Issues

December 07, 2022 11:00 - 38 minutes - 35.3 MB

In this episode, we are joined by Matthew Esworthy, partner at Bowie-Jensen LLP, to discuss geofence warrants and their use by law enforcement in investigating the January 6 insurrection. Geofence warrants involve court issued warrants for geolocation data from Google. These warrants were sealed and have only recently come to light through motions to suppress the evidence obtained from the geofence warrants. We explore Google’s process for responding to the 10,000 warrants it receives annual...

82 | A Look at the Consequences of the Uber and Twitter CISO Cases

November 30, 2022 05:00 - 38 minutes - 34.8 MB

This week we are joined by Ron Raether, co-lead of the Privacy + Cyber team at Troutman Pepper, and explore aspects of the recent criminal conviction of Uber’s former CISO and fallout from Twitter’s former CISO turning whistleblower. The “culture of fear” that has developed in CISO offices nationwide has dramatically increased risk for companies that have such a culture. Ron Raether discusses how organizations can better support their CISOs and how the general counsel and outside counsel ca...

81 | Looking at Cyber Leadership & Costly Mistakes

November 17, 2022 05:00 - 44 minutes - 40.4 MB

This week we are joined by Rachel Briggs and Richard Brinson from Savanti, a UK-based cybersecurity consulting entity. Richard Brinson is CEO of Savanti, has been CISO at several large corporations, including Unilever and Sainsbury’s. He was named one of the top CISOs in the world and has over 20 years of experience in the field. Rachel Briggs is an Executive Adviser to Savanti and a leading expert on security and regularly advises large multinationals and governments. She is an Associate...

80 | Cyber Command: Its role in Cybersecurity and National Security

November 10, 2022 05:00 - 47 minutes - 43.3 MB

In this episode, two incredible guests discuss Cyber Command, its role and jurisdiction, and what it can do in cyber conflict situations and how it may help the private sector when under nation state attacks. Gary Corn is director of the Technology, Law & Security Program at American University’s Washington College of Law and former career military with his last position as the Staff Judge Advocate (General Counsel) to U.S. Cyber Command. Jamil N. Jaffer is the Founder and Executive Director...

79 | Understanding 5G Cybersecurity Issues

September 28, 2022 04:00 - 30 minutes - 28 MB

This week we are joined by Carlos Solari, ADCG Advisory Board Member and VP of Product for SecureG, Inc., a company developing universal security technologies for 5G, industrial IoT and other critical infrastructure.We discuss 5G availability, how an orchestrated 5G attack could occur, how to rethink the security problem with 5G, and how 5G is connected to national security.  

78 | The Nexus Between Privacy, Cybersecurity & National Security

September 20, 2022 04:00 - 34 minutes - 31.9 MB

This episode features Cory Simpson, Founder & CEO of Gray Space Strategies Inc., who discusses the relationship between privacy, cybersecurity, and national security. He draws upon his experience as Senior Director and lead for the U.S. Cyberspace Solarium Commission and discusses whether the U.S. Government and private sector are prepared for conflict involving critical infrastructure. Cory also describes how national security has evolved over the past several decades and looks at how some ...

77 | Privacy & Cybersecurity Whistleblowers: A New Trend?

September 03, 2022 04:00 - 34 minutes - 31.2 MB

This episode features Andrew Grosso, a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and tech lawyer whose practice focuses on whistleblower complaints. We take a look at the legal framework for whistleblowers and protections afforded them and then delve into the Twitter whistleblower case in which their former CISO handed over evidence to the DOJ, FTC, and SEC detailing gaps in Twitter’s cybersecurity practices. We discuss whether we are on the edge of a new trend...tech whistleblowers who will expose pr...

76 | Privacy Governance v. Cybersecurity Governance

August 22, 2022 04:00 - 37 minutes - 34.6 MB

In this episode we interview David Navetta, vice chair of Cooley LLP's cyber/data/privacy practice and a prominent leader in privacy, information security and technology law. We discuss the differences between cybersecurity governance and privacy governance, what are the critical activities in privacy governance, what actions are the hardest for organizations to implement, and how privacy governance will evolve in the future. David is a frontrunner in privacy and security and shares his dec...

75 | Cybersecurity and Cyber Insurance: Claims, Costs, and Chaos

August 10, 2022 10:00 - 32 minutes - 29.3 MB

This week our guest is Peter Halprin, a partner in Pasich LLP’s New York office. Peter has helped clients pursue insurance coverage for a wide range of cyber incidents. We discuss the lack of standardized applications, premium hikes no matter how good your cybersecurity program is, nation state-sponsored cyber attacks and the war exclusion clause, and regulators running rampant. Learn insights from a master in the field!

74 | ADCG New Leadership: The Path Forward for Privacy, Cybersecurity & Governance

August 04, 2022 09:30 - 27 minutes - 25 MB

In this podcast episode, host Jody Westby discusses the impact that privacy, cybersecurity, and governance issues are having on businesses with ADCG’s new leaders, Patrick J. Kennedy, Jr. and Dub Sutherland of Kennedy Sutherland LLP. We discuss proposed federal of these issues are also covered. Patrick Kennedy and Dub Sutherland are lawyers with an entrepreneurial perspective who take a macro level view of the business challenges associated with current privacy laws, a looming cyber threat...

73 | Contract Management: The Privacy Tangle

July 15, 2022 04:00 - 29 minutes - 26.8 MB

This week our guest is Keith Cheresko, Principal of Privacy Associates International LLC and former general counsel of the Ponemon Institute, a privacy research organization, to discuss the increasing tangle of contractual compliance obligations in privacy laws. From mandated contractual obligations to standard contract clauses for forward transfers, companies are finding it increasingly difficult to manage — and meet — contractual obligations associated with privacy laws and regulations.

72 | DeleteMe: Looking at Privacy Solutions for Individuals & Organizations

July 05, 2022 04:00 - 30 minutes - 27.7 MB

This week we are honored to have Rob Shavell, CEO and Co-Founder of DeleteMe, join us to discuss the threat of publicly available PII to individuals and companies, the types of threats they are encountering, the need for companies to protect executives and employees, and how individuals and organizations can address these issues, using both technological and legal/policy approaches. Rob is a privacy expert who has been quoted in The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, The Telegraph, NPR, AB...

71 | Incident Response: Gaps That Matter and Approaches That Work

June 24, 2022 14:00 - 35 minutes - 32.8 MB

This week we have Violet Sullivan, Vice President of Client Development for Redpoint Cybersecurity, as our guest to discuss incident response, gaps that are costly, using external resources, bottlenecks that can take time, interacting with vendors, and successful approaches to tabletops. Violet also serves as a professor of Cybersecurity & Privacy Law for Baylor Law School’s LLM program where she focuses on litigation management. On the podcast, she offers tips on incident response that can...

70 | Learning About Cyber Risk Management from a Risk Manager

June 16, 2022 04:00 - 37 minutes - 34.7 MB

This week we are joined by Leslie Lamb, Director of Global Risk Management for Flex, Inc. and former Head of Global Risk & Resiliency Management for Cisco. We discuss the current cyber insurance market, getting boards and C-suites engaged, working across the organization and with CISOs and CPOs, and developing a cyber resiliency plan.

69 | DOJ Changes Policy on Computer Fraud & Abuse Act

June 02, 2022 04:00 - 34 minutes - 31.1 MB

This week we are joined by Mark Rasch, Adjunct Professor at George Washington University Law School and former DOJ prosecutor of cybercrimes, to discuss the DOJ's recent change to its policy for charging good faith security research cases under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. We explore the types of actions that fall within the new policy and those that do not and linkages to the Register of Copyrights definition of “good faith research.” In addition, the episode weaves in a discussion of...

68 | Conversation with Jeff Jockisch about the Data Collaboration Alliance

May 26, 2022 04:00 - 27 minutes - 25.4 MB

This week we are joined by Jeff Jockisch, Data Privacy Researcher and founder of PrivacyPlan. We discuss the Data Collaboration Alliance, the concept of “zero copy integration,” data ownership, and the "Privacy Brain” that Jeff and others have under development. We also weave in a discussion of the recent Ninth Circuit opinion in HiQ v. LinkedIn and the impact that case could have on privacy and copying of data.

67 | Crisis Communications Perspective on the SEC Cybersecurity Requirements

May 19, 2022 04:00 - 30 minutes - 27.4 MB

This week, we're joined by Michael Robinson, Chairman & CEO of The Montgomery Strategies Group. We explore the new SEC cybersecurity requirements from the communications, brand, and regulatory management perspective and more.

66 | Understanding Digital Advertising and the Role of the NAI

May 11, 2022 04:00 - 30 minutes - 27.9 MB

This week, we're joined by Anthony Matyjaszewski, Vice President and Chief Compliance Officer of the Network Advertising Initiative. We explore the world of digital advertising, the impact of ad tech, how state privacy laws are impacting the use of digital data for advertising, and how the industry is adapting to advertising changes from companies like Apple and Google. And more….

65 | Cybersecurity and the Mid-Sized Business Market

April 27, 2022 04:00 - 30 minutes - 27.6 MB

This week, we're joined by Steven Francesco, Chairman and CEO of Cohere Cyber Secure, a managed service provider (MSP), managed security service provider (MSSP), and consultant to the small and mid-sized business market. We explore the IT and cybersecurity needs of mid-sized businesses, what motivates them, and how they manage privacy and cybersecurity compliance requirements. We also explore whether mid-sized companies leverage vendors better than big business.

64 | The FBI’s Novel Approach to Eradicating Malware: Search & Seizure on Company Computers

April 19, 2022 18:56 - 48 minutes - 44.1 MB

This week, we are joined by three cybercrime experts, John Bandler, Scott Giordano, and John Bates, to discuss how the FBI is obtaining court orders to enter companies' computers and seize harmful malware — and take other actions — in a new approach to countering cybercrime. The FBI’s Cyber Division coordinated with the UK and private companies to disrupt a two-tiered global botnet of infected devices controlled by a cybercriminal aligned with the Russian Intelligence Unit GRU. This episode’...

63 | The Hunt for Cybersecurity Personnel: A View from Inside

April 08, 2022 16:00 - 33 minutes - 30.6 MB

This week, we're joined by Jamey Cummings, a partner at JM Search and a member of the Firm’s Cybersecurity and IT Executives Practice. Jamey will discuss the hunt for cybersecurity personnel, and give us his inside view of the cybersecurity job market, what companies need, and how new laws and regulations and global events are impacting the cybersecurity search market. JM Search is the premier retained executive search firm for private equity firms, venture capital firms, portfolio companies,...

62 | SEC Reforms on Cybersecurity: The Financial Industry

March 22, 2022 04:00 - 25 minutes - 23.2 MB

Welcome Back! In our podcast episode today, we will discuss the new SEC proposed cybersecurity rules for registered advisers and funds, potential issues with the proposed rules and anticipated benefits. Our guest will be Frank Jones from Ariel Investments. Frank Jones is Vice President, Infrastructure and Information Security Officer for Ariel Investments. He leverages his experience in establishing cybersecurity programs and meeting financial industry compliance requirements in discussing ...

Looking Ahead at Privacy and Cybersecurity

January 05, 2022 05:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

Contact us: Jerry Buckley | [email protected] Jody Westby | [email protected] ADCG | [email protected]

61 | Looking Ahead at Privacy and Cybersecurity

January 05, 2022 05:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

Contact us: Jerry Buckley | [email protected] Jody Westby | [email protected] ADCG | [email protected]

Evolving Rules in AI (with Carl Hahn)

December 22, 2021 15:00 - 51 minutes - 47.5 MB

Contact us: Jerry Buckley | [email protected] Jody Westby | [email protected] ADCG | [email protected]

60 | Evolving Rules in AI (with Carl Hahn)

December 22, 2021 15:00 - 51 minutes - 47.5 MB

Contact us: Jerry Buckley | [email protected] Jody Westby | [email protected] ADCG | [email protected]

Taking a Look at the Department of Defense CMMC Framework

December 16, 2021 05:00 - 43 minutes - 40.3 MB

Contact us: Jerry Buckley | [email protected] Jody Westby | [email protected] ADCG | [email protected]

US Government Blacklists Israeli Spyware Company

December 09, 2021 05:00 - 22 minutes - 20.4 MB

Contact us: Jerry Buckley | [email protected] Jody Westby | [email protected] ADCG | [email protected]

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