For more of Rod’s work:
https://roderickgraham.com/

Rod’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7yofOWy-IrERYjfkONF3Tw

Write to Rod at Letter:
https://letter.wiki/RoderickGraham/

Follow Rod on Twitter @roderickgraham

For more on John R. Wood’s work:
https://braverangels.org/author/johnbetter-angels-org/

John’s philosophy of virtue ethics:
https://areomagazine.com/2018/08/14/virtue-ethics-for-the-modern-age/

My previous podcast with John:
https://soundcloud.com/user-761174326/19-john-wood

Follow John on Twitter: @JohnRWoodJr

Further References

Glenn Loury’s interview with Sam Harris on Making Sense, which I allude to, is now paywalled:
https://samharris.org/podcasts/racism-and-violence-in-america/.

You can find a more recent discussion, with John H McWhorter, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RMEiclpA7E

Follow Nicholas Christakis, who has been tracking police brutality since 2014 @NAChristakis on Twitter

Roland G. Fryer’s work can be found here:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/reconciling-results-racial-differences-police-shootings
Jill Leovy, Ghettoside: A True Story of Murder in America (2015)

Timestamps

3:03 Is the problem systemic racism or is it general police brutality?
9:26 Policing in different communities
24:40 The police as an institution: militarisation on both sides; feedback loops and the importance of context
31:27 Racial unification: what this moment might lead to
42:00 The role of leftists
47:43 Ways forward