Welcome back to another episode everyone, it's been a while and a lot has happened in the world since we last saw each other. More specifically, Ghislaine Maxwell and artist R. Kelly were sentenced to 20 and 30 years respectfully for sex trafficking and other sexually explicit crimes involving underage kids.  


Today we welcome back the host of Jason McLean's questions everything as well as Siru Papers on Youtube Jason McLean. You can also find his work on sirupapers.com, Jason and I will be diving trying to dive into the disturbing minds of R. Kelly and Ghislaine Maxwell and try to break down how, why, and who was helping them feed their addictions for so many years.  


I hope you enjoy it.  


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