So, we lost track of the number. 127, 128...it's about the same difference as in Matt Moore's expected and real ERA.

Speaking of Moore, we talk about the huge disappointment he's been, among other Giants. They are flirting with a 100 loss season, but are throwing in the towel with the youth movement, DFA'ing Connor Gillaspie, sending down Hwang, and calling up Suarez, Jones, Parker and others. If Beede and Arroyo weren't hurt, we just might have the RiverCats playing out the rest of the Giants' season!

And yes, we talk about the reunion with the Panda, and trading away a solid player in Eduardo Nunez to the Red Sox for some pocket lint that may not amount to anything.

At least we can look forward to 2034?

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