Even though Hardee and Tom are as active as you might think, it's not necessarily about the exercise for them. Or is it? Getting down and dirty with something that you might enjoy but also keeps you fit is an important tool in being healthy and ready to face life's challenges. The guys talk about what they've been up to and ways that they have used their passions to sugarcoat dreaded exercise.

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Hardee Merrit (aka Ninja) is the owner of Chapel Hill Quest Martial Arts. He has been studying To-Shin Do Ninjitsu for 21 years and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for 16 years. He is an avid outdoorsman. Many of his skills, teachings, and product reviews are shared on his website The Ninja Everyday.

Tom Ferguson (aka The Birdman) is a chef/entrepreneur who is currently the CEO of Rise. A workaholic who has faced many struggles in his life, he now finds solace in the practice of birdwatching and photography and hopes to share this experience with others. Follow his adventures on his website Hyper Manic Birdman.

Produced, recorded, and edited by Jon Gregory (aka Juan Huevos)
Music by Jon Gregory