After an update about Chad's computer files and subscriptions, Tom talks about Amazon leaving NYC and they both get into a long discussion about translator Molly Ringwald (who you might also recognize from Riverdale). Chad tries to order a book from IndieBound (where do these books process from?) and then they talk a bit about NirliitThunder Bay, and Brockmire.

This week's music is "Staring at the Sun" by Wooden Shjips.

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