Today, I talk to the Environmental Journalist and researcher Maxwell Ayamba about how he is breaking myths and barriers that inhibit Black and Minority Ethnic communities to connect with their surrounding natural landscapes. Maxwell makes us all see the danger in generalising this whole topic. This is a lively conversation, exploring this issue from many angles such as: history of migration within BME communities; mental health amongst black men; challenges that lie in gaining physical access to nature; the power of practical application in research and what being an ecocentric is all about!

Music by the talented guitarist and composer, Vlad Cuiujuclu. The track name is "The Limits of Unknown".