"As infants, we learn to perceive simple objects, and eventually people. As children, we learn to perceive increasingly complex emotions in people. Later, we begin to discern narratives and moral patterns. As we grow older, we learn to perceive social and historical patterns. As Christians, we strive to perceive the Pattern of all patterns, i.e., God." - JP Marceau, "Perception is Symbolic" Jean-Philippe (JP) Marceau is a self-described "part-time philosopher" (because who pays enough to let any of us do it full time?). After graduating with honours in 2015 from McGill University studying math and computer science, he pivoted from math to philosophy. In 2016 he began a master's degree in philosophy at Laval University. In recent year's he's become an active contributor to Jonathan Pageau's "The Symbolic World" website and youtube channel. I became aware of JP through Jonathan Pageau, Paul Vanderklay, and John Vervake who have all had conversations with him in the past. After listening to Jordan Peterson's latest conversation with Pageau as well as JP and John Vervake's discussion on miracles, I had some stuff I was looking for a thinking partner to process. I reached out to JP and he graciously agreed to have a conversation with me.