This Climate Business
151 episodes - English - Latest episode: 7 days ago -This Climate Business is the Kiwi podcast about turning the climate crisis into an opportunity. Every week host Vincent Heeringa talks to entrepreneurs, investors and experts about what they're doing to solve the climate crisis and get NZ down to zero emissions by 2050 – or sooner.
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What’s land for anyway? Geoff Simmons chief economist, Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment
June 19, 2024 03:45 - 32 minutes - 29.7 MBYou’d be hiding under a rock if you haven’t noticed that there’s fierce disagreement about the growth of pine plantations on rural New Zealand. On the one hand, we need fast growing permanent forests to act as carbon sinks. Lots and lots if we’re meet our net zero goals. If grown on marginal these forests make welcome additional income for farmers and reduce reliance on sheep and beef – a win for landowners, win for climate, win for New Zealand. On the other hand, we need more permanent pine...
Busting the Bikes and Business Myth – Karen Hormann, Bike Auckland
June 02, 2024 13:00 - 8 minutes - 7.91 MBSo businesses love parking and hate cycleways. Or do they? Bike Auckland chair Karen Hormann tells Ross Inglis about a new campaign that tackles a lopsided narrative about commerce and cycling.
The big picture on food waste - Kaitlin Dawson and Iain Lees-Galloway
May 30, 2024 13:00 - 35 minutes - 32.5 MBWe know that about a third of food is wasted. If global food waste was a country, it would be the third-largest emitter of greenhouse gases behind only China and the USA. No one believes it’s a good idea. So why does it keep happening? And who’s in charge of this madness? It’s turns out, it’s no one. Those numbers are mere guesses and gaps in the system remain unsolved. Someone needs to do something. Kaitlin Dawson is making a start. Kaitlin is head of Foodwaste Champions 12.3 and is seek...
Sustainability Reporting is here. How should Kiwi Businesses respond?
May 23, 2024 21:00 - 24 minutes - 22.5 MBThere’s a fast-growing thicket of regulations and trade agreements standing between corporate New Zealand and its overseas markets. This emerging landscape has been mapped out by law firm Chapman Tripp in Protecting New Zealand’s Competitive Advantage, a report for the Aotearoa Circle. Co-authors Nicola Swan and Alana Lampitt told Ross Inglis what it all means for businesses big and small.
Is civil disobedience effective? David Williams, Newsroom
May 14, 2024 09:00 - 29 minutes - 27 MBDavid Williams is a journalist with Newsroom. He recently interviewed Extinction Rebellion protesters, Nick Hanafin and Siana Fitzjohn who climbed aboard the oil rig COSL Prospector in the Cook Strait in 2020 and were subsequently prosecuted. The interview piqued my interest, as it got into the minds and hearts of two incredibly brave and yet, surprisingly ordinary people who were prepared to push the law and their own safety to the limit. Now, as our government throws down the welcome mat ...
Disrupting the bottle business – Jayden Klinac, Anew
May 01, 2024 05:00 - 32 minutes - 29.7 MBIs another plastic bottle the way to disrupt the plastic bottle business? Jayden Klinac of Anew believes so. The Anew system builds on years of trying to find a sustainable, commercially viable plant-based, recyclable, compostable, cradle-to-cradle plastic packaging solution. Brave man. Vincent spoke to Jayden ahead of his talk at the Spark Future State conference.
Unilever as B Corp - Why and what’s changed?
April 16, 2024 22:00 - 38 minutes - 53.2 MBTwo years ago Unilever Australia-NZ became a B Corp. It was the first really large corporate, with household brands Surf and Persil, to join a scheme that’s been home to environmental hero brands such as EcoStore. Why did Unilever join? What did they discover in the process? And what impact has a major corporate had on such a spirited brand as B Lab? Vincent was joined by Cam Heath, MD of Unilever NZ and Andrew Davies CEO of B Lab.
Climate Change Activism heads to the courts – Nick Chapman, Simpson Grierson
April 09, 2024 21:30 - 23 minutes - 21.3 MBClimate change activism is everywhere: in politics, in business, on the streets and, increasingly, in the courts. Simpson Grierson’s Nick Chapman tells Ross Inglis what’s driving the movement towards climate change litigation and just where might it take us.
Electric Homes - Mike Casey, Rewiring Aotearoa
March 27, 2024 06:30 - 46 minutes - 42.7 MBMike Casey is the CEO of Rewiring Aoteraoa, part of an international movement to accelerate the shift to a renewable, electric-powered economy. Rewiring’s first report is all about the electric home - think rooftop solar, heat pumps, EVs and so on. But Mike is also a horticulturist and a passionate advocate for decarbonising the primary sector. He has the unique ability to win over both farmers and greenies, and politicians just love being seen in front of the electric tractor at his Forest ...
Disinformation exposed – Byron Clark and Mandy Henk
March 25, 2024 04:00 - 40 minutes - 36.8 MBWhether it’s swallowing bleach to treat Covid or casting climate change as a Chinese conspiracy, disinformation takes nutty ideas from fringes and mainstreams them into our popular discourse. At best, it's hilarious - seen how windmills kill dolphins anyone? But mostly it's just sad and sometimes tragic. What is disinformation? How is it different from misinformation? Who are the main perpetrators and the victims? No one knows more about this than Byron Clark, author of ‘Fear: New Zealand'...
A Sustainable Commute at a Discount – Connor Read, Workride
March 12, 2024 04:15 - 15 minutes - 14.3 MBIf you’ve wanted to get yourself a discounted bicycle or scooter under something like the UK’s Cycle to Work Scheme, here’s the good news: you can. Ōtautahi Christchurch-based WorkRide now offers a national ride-to-work scheme that uses a Fringe Benefit Tax exemption to slice up to 63 percent off the cost of your next commuter toy. Ross Inglis asked co-founder Connor Read how the scheme works.
How to change carbon behaviour, big time - Ben Gleisner, Cogo
February 21, 2024 13:00 - 33 minutes - 30.8 MBThe conscious consumer movement has an impact but it’s still small - a minority of people choose to change their behaviour. Imagine if you could make your carbon footprint your bank's problem. Imagine these large institutions, with millions of customers and insights into their spending, worry about their customers’ carbon footprint. That’s the genius of new carbon disclosure laws - banks, insurances companies, airlines and other large companies must now report not only on their own footprint...
Copping flak: Rod Oram at COP28
December 21, 2023 22:15 - 31 minutes - 28.4 MBThe United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP28) closed last week with a notable first: an agreement to transition away from fossil fuels. Not quite the phase out most countries had wanted, and reflective perhaps of the influence of petrostates, including the host Dubai. Indeed, the chair is a head of an oil company, and the next COP is due to be held in Azerbaijan, another petrostate and much under the thumb of Russia. Is COP a swizz? Can it be trusted to restrict the rise in global ...
Scope 4 and the new reporting - Dr Jodi York, Climate VC Fund, Kilara Capital
December 11, 2023 13:00 - 18 minutes - 17 MBHeard of Scope 4? Us neither. If you thought Scope 3 emissions are hard to count and reduce then Scope 4 lifts the ambition yet again. Scope 4 or so-called avoided emissions ask businesses to create products that replace dirty ones and thereby avoid emissions – think renewables replacing gas or bioplastic replacing PETs. To explain Scope 4, Vincent spoke with Dr Jodi York the chair of the impact committee for the Climate Venture Capital Fund and the head of impact at Melbourne-based Kilara C...
The Kiwi Company taking the pain out of Climate Disclosure - Dougal Watt, ClimateTracker
December 06, 2023 07:15 - 20 minutes - 19 MBClimate-related disclosures are on their way. Auckland-based ClimateTracker has cloud-based software that eases the compliance overhead and makes sense of the data. Co-founder and data architecture heavyweight Dougal Watt backgrounds the new era of climate disclosure and tells Ross Inglis it’s as much about opportunity as it is about risk.
Watts up with car charging in NZ? Stephanie Smits O’Callaghan, Hikotron
November 27, 2023 13:00 - 27 minutes - 25.4 MBArmed with its own IP, Hamilton-based car charging innovator Hikotron is rolling out a national network of charge points. Ross Inglis asked co-founder Stephanie Smits O’Callaghan how Hikotron tackles the chicken-or-the-egg dilemma of building a network for a small but fast-growing market, how to make sense of all those charging standards, and what on earth a hikotron is. Hikotron EV Charging - New Zealand's Electric Future
Climate Leaders Coalition turns five – Jolie Hodson of Spark and Mike Burrell, SBC
November 27, 2023 05:30 - 23 minutes - 21.5 MBThe Climate Leaders Coalition turned five years old. Its signatories, which include some of NZ’s largest polluters, are a group of 88 companies that have committed to climate agenda and they’ve notched up some impressive achievements. Collectively they’ve reduced emissions by 3.6 million tonnes, that’s a nearly 30% percent reduction since 2018. And, this one that I found surprising, 97% of signatories have identified and measured their scope 3 emissions. To discuss the coalition, its five-y...
What’s behind the sunny spell in solar power? Matt Ward, solarZero
November 16, 2023 13:00 - 45 minutes - 41.3 MBEvery 35 minutes solarZero installs a new residential solar system. It plans to invest $1 billion in new solar and battery systems over the next decade and already has 12,000 installations. It made headlines this time last year when it was acquired by Blackrock, the world’s largest investors. And in September just gone, the government-owned NZ Green Investment Finance invested $80m alongside two other funds. In other words, solarZero is on the march. The 15 year dream of solar enthusiast And...
Around the world in an ETS – Ian Parry, IMF
November 06, 2023 21:00 - 20 minutes - 18.7 MBIan Parry is the Environmental Fiscal Policy Expert at the International Monetary Fund. He came to speak at a series of events in New Zealand about tax. It doesn’t get more exciting than that. But there’s more. Ian is a specialist in carbon pricing, emission trading schemes, and the role of fiscal policy in climate mitigation. The timing couldn’t be better, with New Zealand wrestling with changes to the ETS, price drops and then recovery in the carbon market, and growing skepticism about the...
Will Auckland’s climate plan survive a change of government? Richard Hills & Parin Rafei-Thompson
October 30, 2023 13:00 - 44 minutes - 40.6 MBHow is the Council progressing with Te Tāruke ā Tāwhiri, Auckland’s Climate Plan? In the three years since it was ratified, we’ve had Covid, a change in council, and now a change of government. Will it survive and how much progress has been made? We check in with its architects, councillor Richard Hills, chair of the Planning, Environment and Parks committee; and Parin Rafei-Thompson, head of climate innovation and sustainability at Tātaki Auckland Unlimited.
Sustainability? We’ve got a Strategy for that
October 24, 2023 00:00 - 16 minutes - 14.9 MBSustainability’s elevation into corporate strategy suggests it’s on its way to becoming integral to New Zealand businesses. But why are businesses writing sustainability strategies? What do they look like? And how often do they translate into real action? For answers, Ross Inglis talked with Vanessa Thompson from Auckland-based sustainability strategy specialists Go Well Consulting.
NZ’s Biggest ever Windfarm - Giacomo Caleffi, Taranaki Offshore Partnership
October 18, 2023 08:45 - 31 minutes - 28.6 MBIn June this year, a new piece of equipment was anchored 37km off the coast of Pātea in the South Taranaki Bight. Called the Floating Light Detecting and Ranging device, FLiDAR will measure wind speeds at heights of up to 300m as a well as waves and currents to provide data critical for assessing the feasibility of a proposed offshore wind farm. The Taranaki Offshore Partnership, if successful, will be the largest windfarm in NZ, producing 1GW or 10% of the country’s needs. That’s about the...
Farming indoors - Darryn Keiller, Way Beyond
October 09, 2023 13:00 - 34 minutes - 31.9 MBThe future of farming may be indoors. With eroding coastlines, droughts and unpredictable downpours, farming may be better done in controlled, indoor environments. Better for GHGs emissions too. We know that’s already happening for tomatoes and leafy greens – but what about large scale crops like wheat or fruits or sheep and dairy? Darryn Keiller is the founder of Way Beyond, a company specialising in data and management of such indoor farms – and he joined Vincent.
This Climate Business - Live! James Shaw, Sophie Handford, Alec Tang
October 03, 2023 00:45 - 58 minutes - 53.1 MBHow does change happen? And what can we learn from political and community leaders? Vincent hosted a live event during the Auckland Climate Festival to learn how three experienced climate leaders crossed the chasm from intention to action: ● Sophie Hansford - School Strike 4 Climate founder and Kapiti Coast District Councillor ● James Shaw - Minister of Climate Change ● Alec Tang, partner Sustainable Value, KPMG
Climate Investing: Panel Discussion from Auckland Climate Festival
September 25, 2023 13:00 - 47 minutes - 43.4 MBWhat does climate change mean for investing - is it a disaster, creating havoc due to storms and ecosystem collapse and ultimately stranded assets? Or is there an upside, as companies discover new tech, new markets and new ways of working? It's probably both! Vincent spoke with Shannen Barns (Mindful Money), Rohan MacMahon (Climate VC Fund) and Darcy Unago (NZ Everyday Investor) for a seminar during this month’s Auckland Climate Festival.
Greening the Commercial Property Sector: Scott McKenzie, PMG Funds
September 18, 2023 13:00 - 19 minutes - 17.7 MBCommercial property is more polluting that you might imagine. Twenty percent of New Zealand’s carbon emissions come from the property sector. What will it take to reduce those emissions? Scott McKenzie, CEO of Tauranga-based property investment firm PMG Funds, has a plan.
Are we there yet? Andrew Caseley of EECA on Sustainable Energy
September 10, 2023 13:00 - 31 minutes - 28.6 MBAndrew Caseley is outgoing CEO of EECA, the Energy Efficiency and Conservation Authority. He arrived in 2017 to launch a refreshed strategy and resigns as that piece of work concludes. Back then Judith Collins was Minster of Energy, there were 6000 EVs on the road and Bruno Mars was top of the pops. What’s changed since then, how is New Zealand progressing towards a renewable energy system, and how many points of 10 does Andrew give himself for his time as CEO?
Mātauranga and Climate Change: Cornell Tukiri
September 04, 2023 13:00 - 30 minutes - 28.3 MBCornell Tukiri is the senior Māori advisor for Tataki Auckland United and also for Climate Connect Aotearoa – a climate action accelerator by Tataki Auckland Unlimited. Cornell recently launched He Kete Mātauranga, a resource for climate and community leaders to learn more about Māori approaches to climate change and regenerative practices. A photojournalist and highly competent interviewer himself, Cornell was in the hot seat to talk about his work and the kaupapa of He Kete Mātauranga.
Climate + Business: Antonia Burbidge & Rebecca Lowe
August 30, 2023 10:00 - 34 minutes - 31.4 MBNext month is the biggest event on the corporate climate calendar, the Climate Change + Business conference by Environmental Defence Society, the Sustainable Business Council and Climate Leaders Coalition. You could say it’s the CCBC by the EDS and SBC and the CLC. On the agenda are the ETS, the TCFD and of course IPCC by UNFCCC. To explain all those Cs, I’m joined by Rebecca Lowe, head of communications at SBC and Antonia Burbidge head of climate and nature.
Brianne West: from shampoo to fizzy drinks with no water (not much anyways)
August 23, 2023 13:00 - 43 minutes - 39.8 MBIn Aotearoa New Zealand, we throw away a staggering 97 million single-use plastic drinks containers each year, with less than 7% of those ever getting recycled. Seems dumb especially when most of that drink is water. Brianne West is the founder of Ethique, the eco-beauty products business that took water out of cosmetics and saved millions of tons of plastic, water and emissions in the process. Ethique exports to more than 20 countries and was sold in 2020. Brianne is turning that success i...
Investing in the transition - Jason Patrick, NZ Green Investment Finance
July 24, 2023 19:00 - 31 minutes - 28.6 MBBack in May, the government injected another $300m into NZ Green Investment Finance – or NZGIF – taking the green bank’s investment pool to $700m. Starting in 2019 the bank has committed about $300m in 16 transactions to-date. Given the scale of the transition, why is it such a small sum and why is it taking so long to spend it? What impact is it having on emissions reductions? And will the bank survive a potential change of government? To answer this and more Vincent was joined by chief...
The trouble with food - Emily King, author of Re-food
July 17, 2023 22:45 - 41 minutes - 38.4 MBEmily King is the author of Re-food, a challenge to reimagine and reconstruct the food system in Aotearoa. It’s a timely book, with farmers and growers hit by extreme weather, food prices at record highs and a predominance of highly processed food at the expense of ingredients and wholefoods. But what is Re-fooding and how do we know Emily’s cure will be better than the disease? She spoke to Vincent.
Recycling Farm Plastics: Neal Shaw, Plasback
June 25, 2023 23:00 - 20 minutes - 18.5 MBWhat happens to all that silage baling wrap you see when you’re whizzing around the countryside? Until recently, nearly all New Zealand farmers burned or buried it. That’s changing, largely due to a company called Plasback. Neal Shaw, Plasback’s Commercial Manager, stepped Ross Inglis through the fast-evolving business of recycling farm plastics.
The sustainability journey of a scaffolding company with roots in the petrochemical sector – Paul Cunningham, Cunningham Construction
June 20, 2023 09:00 - 20 minutes - 18.3 MBTaranaki-based scaffolding and rigging company Cunningham Construction has deep roots in the petrochemical sector. It’s also on a journey towards sustainability. Managing Director Paul Cunningham talked to Ross Inglis through the why and the how of doing business differently.
Reporting on progress – Mike Murphy and Nick Morrison on Kōkako Coffee
June 13, 2023 01:15 - 32 minutes - 29.5 MBIt’s hard running a small business. It’s harder running a small business that takes it’s environmental and social responsibility serisously. And it’s suepr hard then auditing that effort and publishing it for all to see. Kōkako Coffee recently published its fourth sustainbility report – presenting a warts ‘n all analysis of its performance. As a small privately owned business it doesn’t have to. But then that’s not how Kōkako rolls. To explain the joys of the coffee and the pains of reportin...
Getting rid of cling film: Jon Reed, Compostic
June 04, 2023 17:00 - 30 minutes - 27.9 MBYou will know about cling film. Perhaps you wrapped your lunch in it this morning. Or you’ve seen swaths of it used to wrap suitcases at the airport. It’s ubiquitous and it’s pernicious. Jon Reed certainly thinks so and has created Compostic, a plant-based alternative that as the label says decomposes faster than an orange peel. He was joined by Vincent Heeringa.
Comvita - David Banfield
May 28, 2023 21:00 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MBComvita is a publicly listed mānuka honey specialist – the OG of mānuka money if you like. For a moment it was a sharemarket darling peaking in 2015 but since then languishing as it posted losses and a stockpile of product it couldn’t shift. Enter David Banfield in 2020. A spectacular financial result in February this year signal perhaps a reversal in fortunes. With success in China and the USA, the company has posted record sales and profitability. It’s also written a bold sustainability p...
Carbon, trees and seaweed - Finn Ross, CarbonZ
May 23, 2023 03:00 - 27 minutes - 25.3 MBFinn Ross is a young guy on a mission. He’s completing a PhD on seaweed carbon sequestration, he’s also co-founder of CarbonZ, a company offering voluntary carbon credits based on the restoration and planting of native trees on New Zealand farmland. He’s the son of entrepreneurs Geoff and Justine Ross, owners of Lake Hawea Station, New Zealand’s first carbon positive farm. As a worker on the farm Finn has seen first-hand how Kiwi landowners must foot the bill for native afforestation – a pro...
The Big Business Alternative to Landfill: Joe Youssef - All Heart NZ
May 14, 2023 16:00 - 24 minutes - 22.3 MBA framework for any corporate, anywhere, to divert anything from landfill. That’s the promise from Auckland-based social enterprise All Heart NZ. Ross Inglis asked the irrepressible Joe Youssef, the company’s founder and Chief Encourager, how it does it.
Taking on the Plastic Building Wrap Challenge
April 30, 2023 13:00 - 16 minutes - 14.9 MBWhat happens to all those acres of white plastic wrap that protect building sites? Ross Inglis talks with two people who know: Too much of it goes to landfill, and they’re doing something about it. In this episode: Tina Wieczorek (right) is the CEO of the industry organisation Scaffolding, Access and Rigging New Zealand, or SARNZ, and Penny Thomson, a research manager and designer with the Environmental Solutions Research Centre, part of Auckland’s Unitec Institute of Technology.
Yes, there’s a better way to Recycle Plastics: Rui Peng, Critical
April 22, 2023 12:00 - 20 minutes - 19.1 MBConventional plastics recycling is fussy: it can handle only four of the 24 types of plastic, and even those have to be clean. Here’s the story of Auckland-based social enterprise Critical, which uses proprietary technology to turn a wide range of waste plastics, including more contaminated ones, into construction boards and countertops.
A second life for our throw-away clothing: Jeff Vollebregt, Upparel
April 05, 2023 13:00 - 22 minutes - 20.6 MBNew Zealanders on average throw out textiles equivalent to 200 t-shirts every year. Finding a new home for all those garments is the mission of Australasian textiles recycler Upparel. Jeff Vollebregt, director of Upparel’s New Zealand operation talked Ross Inglis through the business of circular clothing.
Harbour bridges! Potholes! Light Rail! – with Paul Winton
April 03, 2023 13:00 - 20 minutes - 18.3 MBThe transport sector has experienced its share of drama this year, starting with Cyclone Gabrielle wiping out so many roads and bridges across the north island. The cyclone was blamed for a sudden change in the direction in government policy. Back in February, Minister Michael Woods announced a climate-friendly plan, in its three-year transport plan, the Government Policy Statement. For the first time it prioritised the emissions impact of transport. But just days later, he reversed many of...
What the heck just happened to the carbon market? Dr Christina Hood
March 26, 2023 12:00 - 37 minutes - 34.1 MBLast week the quarterly auction for carbon credits hit a remarkable snag: it failed to meet the clearing price. This means none of the 4.5 million carbon permits on offer were sold. The failed auction was attributed to Cabinet’s decision to allow more credits to be issued, in an attempt to keep the carbon cost low. And it worked! The carbon price slumped from $90/tonne to $65/tonne. Cost of living crisis averted. The upshot is that the government just issued 40m tonnes of additional emission...
A decade of B-Corp. Now what? Qiulae Wong, NZ manager of B Lab
March 17, 2023 10:00 - 21 minutes - 19.8 MBIt's 10 years since the first companies were certified as B-Corp in New Zealand and since then the movement of ethical and environmentally responsible businesses has grown to over 500 in NZ and Australia and more than 6000 worldwide. But growing pains are emerging as the movement shifts from cutting-edge to mainstream. Last year a group of 30 B-Corps were horrified when Nespresso was certified despite, as they say, ‘Nespresso’s abysmal track record on human rights from child labour and wage...
How food growers can think about climate change: Brent Clothier
March 02, 2023 05:15 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MBIf the rain that deluged the North Island is the ‘new normal’, how are hard-hit growers meant to think about the future – and growing anything in the ‘normal’ way? Vincent Heeringa spoke to Brent Clothier, chief scientist with Plant & Food, about four ways to think about growing food in a warmer and (ironically) drier New Zealand. Note: this was recorded before Cyclone Gabrielle devastated Hawkes bay and Tairawhiti.
Making sense of Auckland’s floods – Kevin Trenberth, Climate Scientist
February 20, 2023 13:00 - 33 minutes - 30.5 MBHow can we make sense of the Biblical deluge that soaked Auckland, Northland, and the Coromandel in late January – and by the time this is being recorded is about to happen again. If only there was an articulate, slow-talking climate scientist who could explain what hell just happened. Oh, wait! Vincent just spoke with Kevin Trenberth a Distinguished Scholar at the National Center of Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder Colorado and an Honorary Academic in the Department of Physics, Auck...
A Constructive Use for Building Waste – With Nigel Benton and Terri-Ann Berry
February 14, 2023 10:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MBBuilding a new house in New Zealand produces on average two skips of construction debris. If a demolition is involved, added another 13 skips. As a nation, we’re really bad at diverting all that waste from landfill. Ross Inglis spoke with two people with a solution: property developer Nigel Benton and Doctor Terri-Ann Berry from Unitec Institute of Technology.
What’s in store for 2023? Investment with Rohan MacMahon
February 06, 2023 22:00 - 16 minutes - 15.2 MBPart Three: Rohan MacMahon on investment and technology Is 2023 the year that New Zealand seizes the nettle on climate action? Or is it another year of incrementalism? And what effect will the election, with a potential change of government, have on the direction and speed of climate policy? To shed some light Vincent dusted off the crystal ball and spoke to three experts about the year ahead: Marc Daalder Newsroom’s climate reporter; Dr Victoria Hatton, director of sustainability and clim...
What’s in store for 2023? Corporate strategy with Dr Victoria Hatton
February 03, 2023 19:30 - 16 minutes - 15.1 MBPart two: Victoria Hatton on corporate strategy Is 2023 the year that New Zealand seizes the nettle on climate action? Or is it another year of incrementalism? And what effect will the election, with a potential change of government, have on the direction and speed of climate policy? To shed some light Vincent dusted off the crystal ball and spoke to three experts about the year ahead: Marc Daalder Newsroom’s climate reporter; Dr Victoria Hatton, director of sustainability and climate chan...