In what is sure to be a more controversial episode, NathanGreg  and Steve talk about trends in many reformed circles today. Piper rails against, security-craving, entertainment-addicted Christians. Platt says that "abandoning ourselves is the central message of Christianity."  DeYoung thinks that the movie ratings guidelines from the 1930's were better times (but institutional racism was embraced then!).  To be fair, this is largely Greg's hobby horse, but Nathan and Steve make great riding partners!

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