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On our 23rd episode, John and Payton sit down to discuss two concerning stories that emerged over recent weeks. They first talk about the report published by L'Arche International concerning multiple cases of sexual assault by their late founder Jean Vanier, and they consider more generally how we as Christians must deal with egregious actions by Christian leaders. Then they bring up the deconstruction stories of Rhett and Link, two famous Youtubers and former Cru (Campus Crusades) staffers, and the guys share their own experiences with deconstruction and how the process can be ultimately beneficial for one's Christian faith.

Jean Vanier, once seen as a Nobel or sainthood candidate, now accused of abusive sexual relationships

Rhett's Spiritual Deconstruction

Link's Spiritual Deconstruction