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That That Don't Kill Me

22 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 3 years ago - ★★★★★ - 37 ratings

That That Don’t Kill Me is a series of non-inspirational, honest and casual conversations about health, illness and disability between two uncourageous young adults who were born #sick. Co-hosts Kendall Ciesemier and Jameson Rich mine their trauma to cover everything from dating when you can’t drink or hooking up when you have scars, to disclosing illness to co-workers, what it’s like to grow up in a hospital, and the day-to-day minutiae of navigating the healthcare system. They talk with writers, comedians, activists, and athletes about their experiences dealing with illness and disability.

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Episodes

Anti-Bodies Bodies Club (feat. Callie Tansill-Suddath)

April 06, 2021 11:00 - 1 hour - 101 MB

Kendall and Jamie talk to heart transplant recipient Callie Tansill-Suddath about the Johns Hopkins study into transplant recipients' response to the vaccines (which both Kendall and Callie are a part of), what it means for their own protection against the virus, and broader uncertainties for immunocompromised people. Information on early results from the first cohort of study participants: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/covid-19-story-tip-covid-19-vaccines-may-n...

Pfear of Missing Out

March 22, 2021 12:32 - 57 minutes - 78.9 MB

Kendall and Jamie are now both fully vaccinated, and compare and contrast their responses to the different vaccines. They also discuss their own conflicting feelings about vaccine FOMO, "line cutting" discourse, and actual line cutting. Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201-4796. We might even play your message on a future show. Like our show? Throw us a rating. That helps other people like you, find us! Thanks so mu...

A Quite Possibly Wonderful Summer feat. James Hamblin

March 03, 2021 04:06 - 53 minutes - 73 MB

Jamie and Kendall are joined by Dr. James Hamblin of The Atlantic to discuss his recent article on the likelihood of having a normal, almost-non-pandemic summer this year. They also talk the vaccine rollout, the global view of pandemic management, and how James called pretty much everything over a year ago. A Quite Possibly Wonderful Summer: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/02/summer-2021-pandemic/618088/ Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at ttdontkillme@gm...

What We Talk About When We Talk about Illness

February 26, 2021 16:40 - 1 hour - 103 MB

Kendall and Jamie discuss Anna Altman's essay in The New Republic, "The Consolations of the Illness Memoir," what exactly the genre is for anymore, and what makes an illness book and illness book. They also talk about their own adventures in writing and talking about illness, which they'll surely write and talk about at some point.  "The Consolations of the Illness Memoir": https://newrepublic.com/article/161387/consolations-illness-memoir-tessa-miller-book-review WARNING: This is now a 50...

What We Talk About When We Talk About Illness

February 26, 2021 16:40 - 1 hour - 103 MB

Kendall and Jamie discuss Anna Altman's essay in The New Republic, "The Consolations of the Illness Memoir," what exactly the genre is for anymore, and what makes an illness book and illness book. They also talk about their own adventures in writing and talking about illness, which they'll surely write and talk about at some point.  "The Consolations of the Illness Memoir": https://newrepublic.com/article/161387/consolations-illness-memoir-tessa-miller-book-review WARNING: This is now a 50...

Working Till We're Sick

February 17, 2021 18:00 - 52 minutes - 71.4 MB

Jamie and Kendall discuss how COVID has forced employers and companies to reconsider the workplace, and whether they think office culture will be more accommodating even after the pandemic is gone.  Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201-4796. We might even play your message on a future show. Like our show? Throw us a rating. That helps other people like you, find us! Thanks so much for being our people. We hope to be...

Kiss Me Thru The Phone

February 10, 2021 19:11 - 1 hour - 91.3 MB

Kendall and Jamie return to disclosing too much about their dating lives, now with added Pandemic context. They argue about the virtues of Zoom dating and discuss the personal calculations of balancing safety and autonomy.  Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201-4796. We might even play your message on a future show. Like our show? Throw us a rating. That helps other people like you, find us! Thanks so much for being ...

Shots Shots Shots

February 03, 2021 12:00 - 1 hour - 86.2 MB

Everybody wants one, nobody's getting them. Kendall and Jamie discuss the vaccine rollout, Kendall's CNN op-ed on the subject, and the issues with current prioritization. They also get into scams like Philly Fighting COVID, the Fyre Fest of vaccine distribution that was being run by a 22-year-old psychology student.  Kendall's op-ed: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/opinions/young-immunocompromised-covid-19-vaccine-priority-ciesemier/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-28T21%3A25%3A31&utm_source=t...

Happy Birthday, COVID

January 26, 2021 16:51 - 1 hour - 58.9 MB

Kendall and Jamie are back from their hiatus to talk about COVID (roughly) one year later, what it's been like dealing with other illnesses during a pandemic, and their varying feelings on COVID compliance. They also dig into the ableism that continues to permeate the discourse, and make several perfect predictions, which are sure to come true, about when and how this all will end. Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201...

Quarantine Zone: Dispatch One feat. Woody Roseland

March 27, 2020 11:00 - 1 hour - 55 MB

Kendall and Jamie patch in from their childhood bedrooms to touch base on the latest with COVID-19, and the experience of living through a global health crisis as chronically sick people. They also chat with Woody Roseland, a Denver-based filmmaker who believes he may have COVID, but can't get tested despite his risk as a cancer survivor.  Read Kendall's op-ed in the New York Times, "Afraid of Coronavirus? I Know What That Fear Is Like": https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/opinion/coronaviru...

Coronavirus with Lime

March 03, 2020 12:00 - 48 minutes - 66.2 MB

A TTDontKillMe Special Report: Kendall and Jamie emerge from hiatus to discuss the hot new plague sweeping the nation, how worried they are, and what you can do to help protect the immunocompromised. 

It's Been a Sick Year feat. Keah Brown

January 02, 2020 15:04 - 55 minutes - 75.7 MB

On the season one finale, Jamie and Kendall review their years and count down the top three worst health-related stories of 2019. Then, they speak with Keah Brown, author of the book The Pretty One: On Life, Pop Culture, Disability, and Other Reasons to Fall in Love with Me, about representation and disability in film and television. Buy Keah's book! Follow her on Twitter and Instagram. **** Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a messag...

A Diary of Depression feat. Brittany Packnett

December 18, 2019 05:09 - 49 minutes - 45.2 MB

TRIGGER WARNING/CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains conversation about suicidal ideation.  On this episode, Kendall and Jamie speak with activist, educator and writer, Brittany Packnett. Brittany shares her journey with depression and anxiety, how she's accessed good mental health care, her mental health advice to other activists and folks of color, and her self-care practices.  Follow Brittany on Instagram and Twitter. If you have thoughts of suicide, need help, or need someone to tal...

The Unbelievable Pain of Being a Woman

December 11, 2019 12:00 - 54 minutes - 49.5 MB

Lara Parker, Deputy Director for BuzzFeed.com, joins Kendall and Jamie to discuss her life with endometriosis, the ways women's pain is ignored by doctors, medical marijuana, and her forthcoming book, Vagina Problems. Follow Lara on Instagram and Twitter. Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201-4796. We might even play your message on a future show. Like our show? Throw us a rating. That helps other people like you, fi...

The Unbelievable Pain of Being a Woman feat. Lara Parker

December 11, 2019 12:00 - 54 minutes - 49.5 MB

Lara Parker, Deputy Director for BuzzFeed.com, joins Kendall and Jamie to discuss her life with endometriosis, the ways women's pain is ignored by doctors, medical marijuana, and her forthcoming book, Vagina Problems. Follow Lara on Instagram and Twitter. Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201-4796. We might even play your message on a future show. Like our show? Throw us a rating. That helps other people like you, fi...

Big Umbrella Energy feat. Anthony Smith

December 04, 2019 12:00 - 1 hour - 58.5 MB

This week on That That Don't Kill Me, Kendall and Jamie sit down with Anthony Smith, VP at NationSwell, about his experience living with hemophilia. They also discuss the state of the disability rights movement, the political health insurance movement, and how the two might work in tandem. Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201-4796. We might even play your message on a future show. Like our show? Throw us a rating. Th...

Buying Probiotics on Instagram, and Other Bad Wellness Ideas

November 26, 2019 14:11 - 1 hour - 59.7 MB

This week on That That Don't Kill Me, Kendall and Jamie critique the wellness industry and how it distorts the idea of health and wellbeing. We also hawk a bunch of wellness products that you should NOT buy.  Amanda Mull's "I Gooped Myself" at The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/08/what-goop-really-sells-women/596773/ Contact us! Want to get in touch with us? Email us at [email protected] or leave us a message at 862-201-4796. We might even play your message ...

The Dystopian World of Diabetes feat. Maris Kreizman

November 20, 2019 14:19 - 54 minutes - 50.3 MB

This week on That That Don't Kill Me, Kendall and Jamie talk with Maris Kreizman, cultural critic, author of the bestselling Slaughterhouse 90210, and host of “The Maris Review” on LitHub, about her life with Type 1 Diabetes. They explore the insulin crisis, the politics of healthcare and the experience of growing up with an illness that doesn't have a cure.  Resources: Read Maris' NYT Op-Ed on the insulin crisis – “Why I Am Stockpiling Insulin In My Fridge”  Maris mentions two books on t...

Live! From the Hospital

November 12, 2019 13:24 - 37 minutes - 30.1 MB

Kendall and Jamie are coming to you straight from Jamie's unexpected hospital stay, because they weren't going to not take advantage of the content opportunity. They discuss what led him to the hospital, how he's feeling about it, and the general calculations and concessions that come with being #sick.  A few updates: We have an email address and a phone number and we'd love to hear from all of you! We have received so many messages from you all and it's been so fun to hear your stories. Wa...

Sick Kids Don't Date

November 06, 2019 12:00 - 1 hour - 46.4 MB

Kendall and Jamie share way too much about their dating histories. All current or prospective partners of theirs are not advised to listen. Exes allowed on a case-by-case basis.

Drink Your Smoothie and Smile feat. Anne Boyer

October 30, 2019 15:00 - 55 minutes - 38.5 MB

Anne Boyer, poet, essayist, and author of the new book "The Undying" (FSG/Macmillan), joins us to talk about the culture of positivity that pervades healthcare and how people treat the sick.  Her New Yorker piece/excerpt from the book, "What Cancer Takes Away" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/15/what-cancer-takes-away Buy her book https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374279349 Support the organization Breast Cancer Action https://www.bcaction.org

Gratuitous Disclosure

October 21, 2019 04:28 - 1 hour - 50.2 MB

Kendall and Jamie introduce the show and discuss different forms of disclosure, including their own.

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