Taanit 4 - Three Improper Requests

A. Aggadot about Passion of Sages

B. Aggadot about Improper Requests

C. Requesting and Mentioning two different things

D. When do we end the request?

Mishnah – musaf first day of Pesah

Baraita – end of Pesah

1. Rav Hisda – mention until end of Pesah

2. Ula – two versions of Rabbi Yehudah

3. Rav Yosef – until after first Hazan onPesah

4. Rabbah – until after Korban Pesah

E. Halakha

Follows Rabbi Yehuda – Shemini Aseret

Follows Raban Gamaliel – 7 Heshvan

1. Different Amoraim

2. Request begins 7 Heshvan

3. 7 Heshvan is for Babylonia

7 Heshvaמ is for Temple times

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