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Goodrich Gevaart is a stand-up comic in Chicago. He and Dave disucss mental illness and emotional problems, and what it takes to eradicate them. Goodrich is afraid that, depsite all his hard work, he'll never be better, and they discuss that fear at length. They both love punk rock, and they talk about how much they both love punk rock, especially when punk rock is nice. Anna Seregina comes back at the end to talk a little more about self-loathing.