Our guest today is Ellen Wong, an expert in managing people and the Director of Engineering at Calm.

In this episode, we explored Ellen’s management path from senior engineer to managing director. We also discussed what it really means to lead by influence—something people talk about a lot but don’t really explain.

Ellen breaks down several of her recommendations to leading folks senior to her, how she builds trust with a new team, and what leading by influence means to her.

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Things you learn in this episode:

- What it means to truly lead by influence

- How to lead people more senior than you

- Using vulnerability to inspire others

- How to enable and empower others to lead, too!